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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013 since Italian Americans score well on tests doesn't this prove IQ isn't genetic? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:53:43 2013, in response to Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013. I am *so* not going to touch this other than to point one thing out of my own philosophy here. Once you "group" anyone, you're in trouble because there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule. I like Jayman, but he seems incredibly obsessed with grouping people and then judging the group as a whole.I grew up personally knowing that grouping or pigeonholing people (except for republicans, heh) is wrong, because for any grouping, there is an incredibly wide variety across that group. I've been kind of offended over the years about IQ scores (which are subjective on their own merits) are some sort of metric of race, nationality or otherwise. In EVERY group, there are idiots, geniuses and all those in between. It bothers me a lot when people limit themselves to thinking of anything in pure black or white and fail to see the rainbow in between, even if that rainbow happens to be monochromatic shades of gray. /soapbox Carry on then, I await where THIS thread's gonna go. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 18 23:53:55 2013, in response to Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013. He's doing this to coincide with the San Gennaro Festival. THIW.I'm Italian. My grandfather came from Bari in 1915. His parents did well. Owned property. I didn't. I'm not offended that whiter norther Europeans have higher IQ's. It's not big deal to me. It's a fact of life. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 18 23:55:15 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:53:43 2013. There are high IQ people in all groups.It's just that on average, certain groups score higher as a whole. It's not offensive. It's not racist. Jayman is a genius if you ask me. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:56:04 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 18 23:53:55 2013. I've met some white northern Europeans from Oslo who were a threat to their own survival. :) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 18 23:56:57 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:53:43 2013. +1 |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 18 23:58:41 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:56:04 2013. They must've been sO slo. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:59:00 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 18 23:55:15 2013. My point, before I call it a night, is WHY is anyone scoring a "group" in the first place since that whole concept is an artifice to me. People are individuals ... they're unique. I take each on a one-to-one basis as you've seen personally despite the "list" you've been put on by others ...But party on, Garth. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 19 00:00:57 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 18 23:58:41 2013. I think it's the beer myself. Damn you, Tuborg! :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 00:01:17 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:59:00 2013. The reason for scoring a group is to explain why that group has lower or higher achievement than average. It would be better if we didn't try to quantify that either. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 19 00:02:23 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 00:01:17 2013. Precisely. Achievement is an individual thing in my experience. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Sep 19 00:02:24 2013, in response to Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013. IQ is culturally-biased. Jayman doesn't know what he's talking about. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 00:13:12 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by italianstallion on Thu Sep 19 00:02:24 2013. Explain further.I think Jayman is a genius. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 19 00:41:58 2013, in response to Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013. I completely humiliated Jayman in this thread and this thread and this one yet he keeps repeating the nonsense. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 19 00:46:24 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 18 23:53:55 2013. I'm not offended that whiter norther Europeans have higher IQ's.Except that they don't. Italians do. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 19 00:46:48 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 00:13:12 2013. You think Prager is a genius. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 00:50:57 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 19 00:46:48 2013. Prager is a genius. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 00:51:15 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 19 00:46:48 2013. PWN3D! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 00:54:06 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:53:43 2013. you KNOW where its heading..right into the toilet,like other threads he made dealing with "labels".it never fails. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 00:58:13 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 18 23:55:15 2013. it IS STUPID.Cant you see the damage it has done to ALL OF US since the dawn of man? if some are better..why can't they come up with a plan to keep THEM from doing stupid shit like thinking THEY ARE BETTER..and fucking over everyone to PROVE IT? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 01:00:17 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 00:01:17 2013. exactly.people are people. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 01:01:07 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 00:13:12 2013. you think Hitler was a genius. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 01:05:00 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 00:51:15 2013. Prager is a genius. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 01:19:40 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 19 00:41:58 2013. no, he's not saying Italians are stupid. he's talking about average IQ's.don't get all worked up. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 01:20:47 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 00:58:13 2013. THEY? Jayman is black.And he's a genius. Nothing offensive about his blog. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 01:36:33 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 01:01:07 2013. no I don't.Bringing up Hitler is not good. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 01:49:10 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 01:05:00 2013. FALSE! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 02:00:01 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 01:49:10 2013. Prager is clearly a genius. I'm sure he would test at genius level.Just because you don't like his politics, does not mean he isn't a genius. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 02:53:00 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 02:00:01 2013. If we're talking about genius-level IQ, how would you know that about either JayMan or Prager? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 03:01:41 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 02:53:00 2013. What's your beef with Prager? Some shit he said years ago about being sworn in to office using the Koran? Big deal. 15 hours of original content a week on radio, plus interviews and appearances, and you'll say something someone does not like.Prager is a genius and an important thinker. Jayman obviously is a genius or highly intelligent, maybe in the top 1 percentile. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Sep 19 07:26:43 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 18 23:55:15 2013. Text corrected.Jayman is a genius if you ask him. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Sep 19 07:35:28 2013, in response to Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013. Jayman has a cabin in the woods by a lake in Maine. He and he alone made the decision not to use a rain barrel for the purpose of water collection. Now he may be |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Sep 19 07:38:58 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 19 00:41:58 2013. I completely humiliated Jayman in this thread and this thread and this one yet he keeps repeating the nonsense.Yes, SMAZ, you did. As painful as it is for me to admit, you most certainly did. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 19 07:41:47 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 02:00:01 2013. Doubtful. He's just another hustler spewing hate on the radio. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Sep 19 07:52:01 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 18 23:53:43 2013. With ya 100% on those thoughts bro!Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Sep 19 08:11:09 2013, in response to Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013. WHO IS THE JAYMAN????? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Sep 19 08:16:32 2013, in response to Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013. From WIKI:Many argue that the ideas that characterized the Renaissance had their origin in late 13th century Florence, in particular with the writings of Dante Alighieri (1265–1321) and Francesco Petrarca (1304–1374), as well as the painting of Giotto di Bondone (1267–1337).[20] Some writers date the Renaissance quite precisely; one proposed starting point is 1401, when the rival geniuses Lorenzo Ghiberti and Filippo Brunelleschi competed for the contract to build the bronze doors for the Baptistery of the Florence Cathedral (Ghiberti won).[21] Others see more general competition between artists and polymaths such as Brunelleschi, Ghiberti, Donatello, and Masaccio for artistic commissions as sparking the creativity of the Renaissance. Yet it remains much debated why the Renaissance began in Italy, and why it began when it did. Accordingly, several theories have been put forward to explain its origins. During the Renaissance, money and art went hand in hand. Artists depended totally on patrons while the patrons needed money to sustain geniuses. Wealth was brought to Italy in the 14th, 15th, and 16th centuries by expanding trade into Asia and Europe. Silver mining in Tyrol increased the flow of money. Luxuries from the Eastern world, brought home during the Crusades, increased the prosperity of Genoa and Venice.[22] Jules Michelet defined the 16th-century Renaissance in France as a period in Europe's cultural history that represented a break from the Middle Ages, creating a modern understanding of humanity and its place in the world.[23] ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sounds like JAYMAN is biased towards anyone in southern Europe. Italy has given the world so much in terms of beauty, arts, music, fast cars, etc. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Sep 19 08:24:36 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Sep 19 08:11:09 2013. We Are All the Jayman. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 19 08:35:21 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 01:00:17 2013. Soylent Green is people! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 19 09:21:21 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Sep 19 08:24:36 2013. coo-coo-ca-choo. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 19 09:23:03 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 19 00:54:06 2013. Everybody head there eventually, let's see if anybody flushes twice. :) |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Sep 19 09:29:20 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Sep 19 08:24:36 2013. what exactly are you referring to? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 10:28:00 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 03:01:41 2013. No. It's his more recent content, like this: http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1080580The Ellison thing was just the first time I had heard of him. Most of what he says I don't like. Even when someone does say mostly things that I like, that doesn't make them a genius. How do you know that about JayMan? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 19 10:35:36 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 10:28:00 2013. LuchAAA doesn't make a big distinction between top 1% and genius. He should. People who are properly called geniuses make up far less than 1% of the population. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 11:24:38 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says he is MUY stupido!, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Sep 19 08:16:32 2013. NORTHERN Italy. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 12:32:12 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Sep 19 07:38:58 2013. Yes, SMAZ, you did. As painful as it is for me to admit, you most certainly did.SMAZ did not w1n that thread. Jayman is in the top 1%ercentile. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 12:34:16 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Sep 19 07:35:28 2013. What is the black and Latino population, as a percentage, in Maine?Do you think Jayman moved up there to get away from minorities? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 19 12:47:24 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 19 10:35:36 2013. LuchAAA doesn't make a big distinction between top 1% and genius. He should. People who are properly called geniuses make up far less than 1% of the population.Prager is probably in the 0.10 % of the population. You should listen to his show. Male/Female Hour. Happiness Hour. He's not very right-wing like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. I knew you'd attack me in this Italian thread. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Sep 19 12:57:44 2013, in response to Jayman says Italians are stupid, posted by daNd124 on Wed Sep 18 23:46:28 2013. Is spam allowed here? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Sep 19 14:36:36 2013, in response to Re: Jayman says he is MUY stupido!, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 19 11:24:38 2013. To the rest of Europe...Italy is ALL SOUTH my good man. |
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