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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by rockparkman on Wed Sep 11 17:47:28 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 11 17:47:05 2013.

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TeeHeeHee

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 11 17:54:44 2013, in response to US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 11 03:15:24 2013.

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C'mon now, Israel's opponent's NEVER make stuff up.



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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 11 17:55:27 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 11 16:40:28 2013.

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FALSE! Get your head out of Olog-HITLER's ass and learn something.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 01:15:06 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 11 17:34:25 2013.

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I have in other threads on the topic, dig them up.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 01:16:58 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 11 17:37:02 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I believe you are wrong.

Attempts at justifying your disgusting, prejudiced, bigoted views are vile. Suggesting that people ought to have more respect for human life, no matter the circumstances, is not. I suppose your Jewish relatives never got around to teaching you that Judaism teaches its adherents not to celebrate the deaths of adversaries.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 01:18:16 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 11 17:40:57 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Listen, I read and respect your views, even if I don't agree with them. Why don't you do me the courtesy of reading what I actually have to say about the topic, and then discuss what I say, not what you want me to say? My stance on the division of Jerusalem is pretty clear. And is the opposite of what you just implied it is.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 01:18:39 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 11 17:36:35 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Don't commit genocide.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 12 05:05:25 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 01:18:16 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well, im listenning. Whst is it?

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Sep 12 05:48:49 2013, in response to US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 11 03:15:24 2013.

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Shocking!

Coming up next:

Water is wet, fire is hot and someone shot John F. Kennedy!

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Sep 12 05:55:09 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 11 15:32:02 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
One race exists. The other does not.

"American" isn't a "race," either, but that doesn't mean there's no such thing as an American.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Sep 12 07:23:45 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 11 17:45:57 2013.

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IAWTP!

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Sep 12 07:25:03 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 12 05:05:25 2013.

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He just told you.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 07:34:20 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 12 05:05:25 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why should he have to restate his opinions just because you didn't bother to read them the first time?

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 12 09:07:25 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 01:18:16 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
My stance on the division of Jerusalem is pretty clear

. . . to you alone.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 12 09:14:19 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 07:34:20 2013.

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I'll wait for WHATCHAMACALLIT.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 12 09:23:27 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 07:34:20 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He read them the first time. But they didn't mesh with his views, so they weren't retained. He's very consistent in that regard.



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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 09:28:45 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 12 09:23:27 2013.

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The funny thing is I'm pretty sure he and I hold a similar view on Jerusalem's future. I'm not sure why he hasn't realized that yet.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 12 09:32:33 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 09:28:45 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which is?

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 12 09:47:26 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 12 09:28:45 2013.

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I don't think he wants anyone living in any part of Jerusalem who isn't ethnically Jewish or else has passed some kind of weird test to indicate that they're an OK type of Christian.



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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 12 09:49:29 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 12 09:47:26 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He meaning me?

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 12 10:38:03 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 11 17:41:53 2013.

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He's the Christian version of a shande too.

He ain't one of ours.

I doubt any respectable religion would claim him.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 12 10:44:46 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 11 17:38:33 2013.

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When (not if) Jerusalem is divided, the world will be rudely awakened to the reality of what they've let happen.


You mean YOUR Jesus (not mine) would not be able to come back to kill all the Jews?

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 12 16:58:07 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Sep 12 07:23:45 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
SDI, surprisingly.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 17:55:00 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 11 16:58:56 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope. Osama bin Laden was a legitimate target, as were the others who died. The SEALs who went in picked their targets carefully as carefully as possible, avoiding unnecessary bloodshed. The people in the WTC were mostly, if not all, civilians, and the attack was done to kill indiscriminately.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 18:05:29 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 11 17:38:33 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The world will simply hit the snooze button and go back to sleep. They've been doing it for decades, why stop now?

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 18:52:37 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 11 09:55:48 2013.

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Actually, this time it's their win. They got Israel to give up something, and now they can derail the talks by using false accusations. They can then accuse Israel of not negotiating in good faith and demand that Israel do something to demonstrate their sincerity. Rinse, lather, repeat.


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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 00:07:57 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 18:52:37 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You won't get through to an antisemitic mind like that.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 00:11:25 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 17:55:00 2013.

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And then there is what happened to SEAL Team 6 afterwards.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:11:27 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 18:52:37 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, because the talks would have led nowhere anyway. Israel needs to keep the boot on their throat until the Palestinians decide to join the civilized world.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 13 00:38:40 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:11:27 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Can they take back the gaza strip? Doesn't seem like that land for peace deal worked.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:45:39 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 13 00:38:40 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why does Israel need to take back the Gaza Strip?

They should have stayed in the Philadelphie Route though: That was the corridor along the Egypt-Gaza border and Israeli control of it was part of the Oslo Accords.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 00:53:57 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 13 00:38:40 2013.

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They ought to. Never mind taking back the Sinai. (But whoops, now the Egyptian military is all over the Sinai using the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas as a pretext.)

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 13 01:27:03 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 17:55:00 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Correct on all counts, but that doesn't justify the disgusting chest-beating that was going on once his death was announced. I thought it was over the top, and I have friends who feel the same way. It was behavior that incites a continued cycle of violence. I've said the same thing before and I'll stand by it, you're free to disagree.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 13 02:04:16 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 11 16:36:32 2013.

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Again..you are Jewish,and you are RACIST?

How can you of all people live with yourself?

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 13 02:05:51 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 11 12:14:04 2013.

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wow..

do you ever think about what you say?

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 13 03:10:44 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 13 02:04:16 2013.

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What is that supposed to mean? Racists come in all colors, shapes, sizes, and flavors...

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 13 03:23:01 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 13 03:10:44 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
it means exactly what i said...and i can say it due to my own Jewish roots.

you'd have to be the worlds greatest fool to be racist AND Jewish in THIS country[USA],given the history of Jews here..and abroad.

that being said..racism itself is foolish to a point where it and logic are universes apart.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 13 04:16:03 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 13 03:23:01 2013.

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I don't condone racism, but I think anyone who thinks that all Jews, because of their history, are inherently not racist, is being foolish. You're right that it is ironic and I've pointed out many times before that some of what gets posted here with regard to what Israel should do to resolve the conflict by the resident armchair diplomatic corps contradicts Jewish teachings. But the fact that there are Jewish racists doesn't surprise me. Look at how the Israeli Arabs, Sudanese refugees, and Ethiopian Jews are treated in Israel...

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 13 09:17:32 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 13 02:04:16 2013.

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I'm no more racist than the obamas.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 13 12:16:48 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 13 00:38:40 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope. Remember the other reason Ariel Sharon gave up the Gaza Strip: Israel proper was in danger of having a majority of Palestinians. So unless Israel wants to do something blatantly illegal and create a humanitarian crisis by pushing out the Palestinians, no.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 13 12:18:41 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 13 01:27:03 2013.

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I'll agree to disagree at this point, since I completely understand where you're coming from.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 13 12:19:50 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 00:11:25 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Something happened besides the excessive spotlights on a supposedly covert unit?

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Sep 13 12:22:25 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 13 12:16:48 2013.

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The first part was meant to be sarcasm, but you have a point. Still giving them an area to launch rocket attacks at Israel hasn't exactly worked out. My point was these land for peace deals haven't really worked if there are still attacks on Israel. You can't negotiate with people who refuses to accept peace.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 13 12:37:16 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by grand concourse on Fri Sep 13 12:22:25 2013.

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You can't negotiate with people who refuses to accept peace.

That I agree with. The press will interview the man on the street who says they just want peace, but the Palestinian Authority's/Hamas' aim is to prolong this as long as necessary.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 15:52:18 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 13 12:19:50 2013.

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The 8/6/11 Taliban ambush of the chopper in which 38 American soldiers were killed, including 15 members of SEAL Team 6.

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Re: No arab muslims In Israel

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 13 23:54:32 2013, in response to Re: No arab muslims In Israel, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 13 04:16:03 2013.

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"you have to be the worlds greatest fool to be Jewish and racist.."

there you have it..no wonder they have so many issues.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 14 12:19:11 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 13 12:16:48 2013.

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That was not a valid reason.

And what resulted was Gaza turning into another rocket-launching site.

There are no "humanitarian crises". Stop listening to the UN's propaganda.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 16 05:31:50 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 14 12:19:11 2013.

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It is a very valid reason, esp. if the country claims to be a democratic one. If the Palestinians gain a majority within Israel (because they have more children on average than Jews), all they have to do is demand for the right to vote as Israeli citizens. It's that simple.

And you misunderstood what I wrote about the "humanitarian crisis". I'm talking about an existing one, I'm talking about creating one by pushing out the Palestinians.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 16 08:25:59 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 16 05:31:50 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The "Palestinians" that are Israeli citizens already have the right to vote. Where are you getting your propaganda from?—there are quite a few Arab politicians in the Knesset, even those that call themselves "Palestinian". Now ask the same about the "Palestinian 'state'" where they don't even allow Jews in, much less vote in their elections—and they murder their fellow "Palestinians" that they accuse of selling land to Jews.

Nobody's "pushing out" the "Palestinians" at all. It's the "Palestinians" that are pushing out the Israelis, but nobody cares about that "humanitarian crisis" as they like to call it.

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Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 16 12:12:16 2013, in response to Re: US: Palestinians Purposely Attempting to Scuttle Peace Talks with Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 16 08:25:59 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm talking about the Arabs who are currently Israeli citizens, I'm talking about the Arabs who are living in the West Bank and Gaza who are currently outside of the Israeli border wall.

Where are the Palestinians pushing out the Israelis?

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