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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:36:31 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 17 01:34:37 2013. no you in fact did call me a racist |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 17 01:36:56 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:36:31 2013. Having trouble understanding sarcasm, are we? |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 01:37:26 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by Easy on Wed Jul 17 01:34:13 2013. He did run. Then he must have realized he was giving up to Zimmerman, who he perceived to be some variety of criminal, information on where he was headed so he wandered about to confuse and hopefully lose him. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:37:30 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 01:35:20 2013. i read it, and it doesn't provide any evidence that zimmerman had pinned martin |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 01:39:02 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 01:36:24 2013. Apparently you don't have to prove anything there. Just gotta be whiny enough.Next we'll see dead office employees over paper cuts. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:40:32 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 17 01:36:56 2013. Having trouble understanding logic, are we? |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 01:41:33 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:37:30 2013. Read the section linked from that section of the article. Told you they spell it all out with appropriate citations from the report. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:42:00 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 01:37:26 2013. the altercation took place about 100 feet from zimmerman's car if zimmerman had been chasing him the entire time they would have been further away than that. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:42:32 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 01:41:33 2013. i have no interest in reading spin. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 17 01:44:09 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 01:36:24 2013. Only if you're white. If you're black, you get 20 years for firing a warning shot without actually hurting your attacker. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 01:44:29 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:42:32 2013. Can't help you then. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:47:32 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 17 01:44:09 2013. stand your ground laws don't permit you to leave a house, get your gun, return to the house and start firing. The 20 year sentence is excessive but there is good reason self defense didn’t apply. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:49:20 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 01:32:15 2013. none of the first 10 links say that the witness in question was coached. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 01:49:41 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:45:27 2013. And these morons still spit out these lies.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 01:52:47 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 17 01:44:09 2013. Yep ... saw that. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 01:53:24 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:42:32 2013. Seems most of the opposite spin stuck tho' ... |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 17 01:55:39 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:47:32 2013. Right. So, you believe that any white man has the right to shoot any black person without precondition, but a black woman doesn't have the right to fire warning shots to frighten a dangerous intruder with a known history of violence who has broken into her house with her children inside.That's called "racism," and it's why you're incapable of serious debate. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 01:57:01 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:39:25 2013. Hey, that's funny! Know what I just realized?About 1:30 into the video: Dispatcher: "Okay, well let me know if he does anything else." Sounds like an order to keep an eye on him! |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:59:48 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 17 01:55:39 2013. you are here to make bingbong look sane right?you believe that any white man has the right to shoot any black person without precondition the an absurd conclusion to draw. but a black woman doesn't have the right to fire warning shots to frighten a dangerous intruder with a known history of violence who has broken into her house with her children inside. those aren't the facts in the case. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 02:01:13 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:49:20 2013. Time for yet ANOTHER valuable lesson on how google is useless then ... google tracks you and tailors each set of results for what it thinks you like. So no two people will ever get the same results!Duckduckgo discusses the problem here: http://dontbubble.us/ Here's what I got ... and looky at the blue arrow again. I got dozens on the first two pages along with the usual googleshit totally unrelated to what I asked for. 
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 02:06:30 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 01:59:48 2013. You know they don't care about facts. Only sad emoticon faces and memes to make them feel better about themselves. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 02:08:28 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 02:01:13 2013. i got the page, coached was in reference to Rachel Jeantel not John Good. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 02:10:00 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 02:06:30 2013. Yes ... of course. And the only facts there are come from FOX News and CNN. :-\ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 02:11:12 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 02:08:28 2013. Dunno, didn't much care to follow the trial at all. Stated that up front until I saw how stupid it's gotten over here. When absurdity reaches entropy, it becomes a comedy show. I never turn those down. :) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 02:13:06 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 01:57:01 2013. And then about 2:10 in:Dispatcher: "He's running? Which way is he running?" |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 02:14:50 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 17 02:08:28 2013. I should add ... I said witness was supposedly coached ... well ... that's what I saw.Oh look ... just plugged in "zimmerman trial john good coached" and got hits on that too. Maybe try it on duckduckgo.com perhaps? |
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Posted by The silence on Wed Jul 17 02:22:43 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 01:49:41 2013. My mother read something on her Facebook page last night that someone else had posted, about Martin being an honor student who had just been accepted to college.All lies. At the time of his death, Martin had been suspended for excessive tardiness and wasn't even old enough to apply for college. People are to the point they are making crap up to pollute public oppinion on this case. It seems to be a running theme. Just like the Bell case. Guy tries to run over NYPD officers, and try fire back in self defense. Everyone then starts making a drug pusher sound like a chior boy... It's behavior such as that that encourages racism. |
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Posted by The silence on Wed Jul 17 02:25:18 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:32:15 2013. She thinks she can see things exactly as they happened, even though all the information is third of fourth hand. |
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Posted by The silence on Wed Jul 17 02:29:51 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:44:20 2013. No, otherwise they wouldn't be "standard"Point is, Zimmerman never used the stand your ground law as his defense. |
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Posted by The silence on Wed Jul 17 02:35:50 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 01:28:43 2013. It searched for pin. "Pine" was the system asking. The first link has "pin" highlighted. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 17 02:41:59 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 22:47:03 2013. excellent one for sure |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 02:50:13 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by The silence on Wed Jul 17 02:35:50 2013. Yes, obvious ... it STILL modifies the results because the algorithm still thinks you want to see that if it turns up. Take any two people, any two machines, search for the exact same thing. Compare. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 17 05:33:35 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 22:47:03 2013. Bring it on |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Wed Jul 17 05:58:07 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 01:52:47 2013. The two cases are far from relatedhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/marissa-alexander-gets-20_n_1530035.html 1. Ms Alexander entered her ex husband's house. She did not think he was home (Why did she go there without permission?) 2. Turned out he was home and started arguing with her (normal reaction to someone entering your home without permission) 3. She LEFT the house - got a gun from her car then returned to the house to fire the shot. This is the reason "stand your ground" did not apply. She was an aggressor and home invader But this is the internet and people have entrenched positions - facts are irrelevant here |
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Posted by busdude2 on Wed Jul 17 06:00:35 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 16 15:19:46 2013. OH yeah we cant survive without Stevie Wonder coming. Lol |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 17 06:23:20 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:21:30 2013. Laughed its dreadlocks off too. :)
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 17 07:58:14 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 16 18:12:56 2013. Haha....exactly |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Jul 17 08:20:10 2013, in response to Re: Because of the risk of being shot., posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 02:06:30 2013. +1. It isn't a just trial if the verdict doesn't go their way. God help the person if they were serving on a jury. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 17 09:13:22 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 17 02:41:59 2013. Have you ever seen his kids? |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 17 09:14:52 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. Because Florida is a northeastern American state, and we'd rather boycott those than terrorist nations.I'm still waiting for the New Orleans or Michigan boycotts. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 17 09:35:35 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by The silence on Wed Jul 17 02:22:43 2013. IAWTP |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 10:02:29 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by The silence on Wed Jul 17 02:25:18 2013. Wrong. I read the testimony as it became public. You couldn't even find a hyperlink. You couldn't find anything relevant on Google. Neither is terribly hard. IMO, the RWers are the ones making shit up. They're obviously not reading the transcripts.Doesn't make Mr martin and the *other* "stand your ground " victims less dead. Yes, the hjuror that spoke to the press stated that stupid law was their primary consideration.So don't go saying it was not a "stand your ground" case. Every bit of it WAS, according to the jury. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 10:07:06 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by The silence on Wed Jul 17 02:29:51 2013. THE JURY DID. What part of that don't you RWers GET?Jury instructions include pertinent law as decided upon by the judge, prosecution and defense. There is no "standard" jury instruction. They vary from case to case so the jurors understand by which law they are to hold the facts of the case to. Floriduh's reckless "stand your ground" law WAS INCLUDED in the instructions. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jul 17 10:34:41 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 10:07:06 2013. Not entirely true. Most states have basic model jury instructions that cover 99.9% of cases. Every so often you get a unique case that requires a custom jury charge that you have to help the Court divine out of applicable case law, but when charges have been upheld by Appellate courts they are generally safe to use in future cases and are constantly added to the model jury instructions |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 10:50:58 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jul 17 10:34:41 2013. This jury was given "stand your ground" within the instructions and used it as the basis of their determination. That fact was stated by the juror that went to the press in their interview.Then we have the RWers saying this is not a "stand your ground" case. |
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Posted by the Silence on Wed Jul 17 11:01:10 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 10:50:58 2013. the jury came to thier own descision. Zimmerman wasn't using "stand your ground". The judge rattled off several senarios in the jury instructions, many of which had nothing to do with this case. |
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Posted by the Silence on Wed Jul 17 11:03:53 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 17 02:50:13 2013. You really don't know how google works. The only "Pine" i got was in ones of those stupid ads at the bottom, everything else says pin. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 11:47:36 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by the Silence on Wed Jul 17 11:01:10 2013. The jury DID. In their own words, replayed on yesterdays CBS Evening News. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 17 13:52:33 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 00:52:02 2013. You do not know enough, obviously, to give advice about handling a gun. That is very apparent. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 17 13:54:02 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 17 00:43:28 2013. Perhaps you are called an idiot so frequently that you don't think of it as name calling any more. |
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