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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:09:14 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:07:21 2013. And the belief was that if he didn't use the gun, he'd suffer great bodily harm. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:09:52 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:07:21 2013. a person can be killed without a gun, people have died from having their head hit pavement. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:10:21 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:03:11 2013. He had a gun. Mr Martin was unarmed. Mr martin had NO weapons. He was no threat to someone with a concealed lethal weapon. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:10:52 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:09:06 2013. The laws of Florida have been the same for many years. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:11:02 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:07:21 2013. let me also add that Zimmerman had no way of knowing that martin didn't have a gun at the time |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:11:29 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:09:06 2013. So you are calling for a boycott of the state of Florida because you now disagree with 6 women out of a population of 19.32 million. Now that makes a world of sense to me. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:12:00 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:10:21 2013. a gun isn't the only way a person can be killed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:12:09 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:10:21 2013. Yes he was. Guns aren't the only way to kill someone. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:13:11 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:07:16 2013. This was not in a dwelling and those instructions did not pertain to the case. But the defense probably wanted it included in hopes of confusing things. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:13:46 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:53:49 2013. If you are going to talk about railroading, take it to subchat. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:14:05 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:13:11 2013. do you know what standard jury instructions are? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:14:43 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:08:41 2013. They did. Don't buy that animation video which contained Zimmermans un-cross-examined stealth testimony. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:15:22 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:11:02 2013. Was THAT admitted into evidence also? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:16:32 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:11:29 2013. No. This is NOT the only "stand your ground" murderer going free in Floriduh. It's just the famous one.You're truly an idiot. This is beyond Zimmerman. He just got people to notice. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:16:38 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:14:43 2013. what evidence is there that zimmerman had martin pinned? |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:18:15 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:16:32 2013. You're truly an idiothe's not the one who keeps getting the same facts wrong. |
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Boycott New York |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:20:53 2013, in response to Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 15:15:33 2013. I heard some guy got killed in New York City and they never solved the case. But you wouldn't know anything about that now, would you, Steve? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:20:58 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:09:14 2013. How? He suffered a scrape and a broken nose. Those are NOT serious injuries. He had a gun, so he was ALWAYS in control. All he had to do is show it, not USE it to stop the fight. Zimmerman went WAY TOO FAR with this. Proportionality. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:23:24 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:20:58 2013. brandishing a gun without using it at such close range is a significant risk. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:23:51 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:12:00 2013. Did this time. Guns are probably the most effective means to kill people. In fact that's ALL they do. Kill. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:24:52 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:16:32 2013. "You're truly an idiot.""The outcome of the case didn't occur until last Saturday." And that decision was made by 6 women and the only fucking idiot here is you. Why didn't you call for your boycott years ago when "stand your ground" was enacted? While we're at it, why don't you also call for boycotts of the following states: "Many states have some form of stand-your-ground law. Alabama,[12] Alaska,[13] Arizona,[14] California,[15][16] Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa,[17] Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana,[14] Maine, Massachusetts (though the term is used very loosely here),[18] Michigan,[14] Mississippi, Missouri, Montana,[14] New Hampshire,[14] North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma,[14] Pennsylvania ,[19], Rhode Island,[20] South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee,[14] Texas,[21] Utah,[22] West Virginia,[14], Wisconsin[23] and Wyoming have adopted Castle Doctrine statutes, and other states (Iowa,[24] Virginia,[25] and Washington) have considered stand-your-ground laws of their own.[26][27][28] Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law Are you going to now boycott all of these states? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:26:02 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:18:15 2013. But she is the one who continually resorts to name calling what she can't debate a point like an adult. |
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Re: Boycott New York |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:27:29 2013, in response to Boycott New York, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:20:53 2013. I'm sure that a lot of murders were never solved in New York. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:29:12 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:20:58 2013. It's not serious? Where did you get your medical training? Did anyone tell George Zimmerman that the blood in his nose and mouth were not significant so he shouldn't need to defend himself? |
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Re: Boycott New York |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:29:30 2013, in response to Re: Boycott New York, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:27:29 2013. You don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:30:11 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:23:51 2013. Yes, just last Friday I killed a large paper target - several times. |
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Re: Boycott New York |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:31:06 2013, in response to Re: Boycott New York, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:29:30 2013. I don't know what you are talking about. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:31:43 2013, in response to Re: Boycott New York, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:29:30 2013. I don't know what you are talking about. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:32:43 2013, in response to Re: Boycott New York, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:31:06 2013. i'm talking about this halfway down the page.your initial response made me think you got the reference. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:33:59 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:29:12 2013. No, but the paramedics on the scene that night did. Jayzee posted the report right here on subchat the following day. But leave it to the right to bullshit their way through all of this just to make their "point" ...Amusing how the incompetent prosecution was hand picked by Rick Scott. Funny how that never comes up either. |
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Re: Boycott New York |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:34:25 2013, in response to Re: Boycott New York, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:32:43 2013. No, sorry but I'm not a Simpson fan |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:34:50 2013, in response to Re: Boycott New York, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:32:43 2013. He has absolutely no concept of humor or irony, yo ... :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:35:47 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:30:11 2013. Neighbor's New York Times ended up on your porch? :) |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:36:17 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:33:59 2013. the prosecution didn't have a case to make they did the best they could. |
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Re: Boycott New York |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:37:21 2013, in response to Re: Boycott New York, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:34:50 2013. not everyone gets every reference... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:39:01 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:36:17 2013. I think we'll see how that works out in the coming days. They're being sued in case you didn't hear. Only real question is are they the stupidest political appointees either, or was this deliberate? Stay tuned ... |
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Re: Boycott New York |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:39:59 2013, in response to Re: Boycott New York, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:37:21 2013. Well ... in his case, we're talking born with no sense of humor at all. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:41:23 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:39:01 2013. is that the latest theory? that the case was set up to fail? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:43:50 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:12:09 2013. He could have revealed the gun without shooting and shut the entire altercation down. He did not. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:44:20 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:14:05 2013. They vary from case to case. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:45:25 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:16:38 2013. It was in the prosecution testimony. Was reported on the evening news. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:45:43 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:41:23 2013. I'm not doing theories. But I did read that the prosecution was in violation of "Brady" as far as withholding evidence, they've got an IT guy that they fired who's about to whistleblow about vanished evidence (curiously more favorable to the defense than the prosecution) and there's other claims of mass incompetence.Let's not also forget that when Zimmerman was "injured" he was examined by paramedics on the scene who determined that he wasn't really injured much at all and put that in writing. There's a whole raft of other bits and pieces that were posted here on subchat back when it happened. I'm merely gassing off that this has been turned into a whole political thing by the usual suspects, so might as well ask if Rick Scott did this deliberately since we're twisting the entire event away from what it was into armchair lawyering. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:47:39 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:16:38 2013. Didn't you read about it in the bingbong news under ding-dong alerts? |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:47:39 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:43:50 2013. and what if Martin knocked the gun out of his hand or worse grabbed it from him. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:48:14 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:45:25 2013. post a link to your claims. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:49:58 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:18:15 2013. He's can't figure out that it takes a famous case to get the attention of millions and to drive an effort like the Floriduh boycott, which is being based on millions of personal decisions, not any organized effort. This is not just about the murder of Mr Martin. It's about "stand your ground" - cited by the juror that came forward to the media as the reason they sprung Zimmerman- making the state of Floriduh unsafe for everyone.Which is why he's an idiot. He is unable to comprehend that this is about more than one case, but the one case got everyone's attention. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:51:04 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:23:24 2013. Brandishing a gun is dangerous period, yet guns do not kill until fired. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:52:02 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:47:39 2013. "Don't draw your gun unless you are sure that you have to use it." Until Trayvon Martin was on top of George Zimmerman didn't think he needed to use his weapon. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:52:51 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:48:14 2013. She doesn't have time or she does not have to do your google work. Take your pick. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:54:09 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:47:39 2013. What if Spartacus had a Piper Cub? Train Dude logic is no way to go through life, son. :) |
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