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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:36:00 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:33:16 2013.

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That's correct, and underlines the fact that no justice occurred WRT this case.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:37:21 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:40:26 2013.

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He was walking back to the truck when he was accosted.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:37:29 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:34:55 2013.

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lol

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:39:14 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:42:53 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What law is that exactly? Don't say "stand your ground" as once again there is NOTHING about stand your ground in this case.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:39:50 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:44:41 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The standard is not "loss of life."

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:41:06 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:47:13 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I have admitted no such thing! I was only reïterating the standard under the law.

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Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:41:23 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:19:42 2013.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:42:16 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:37:21 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which means he left the truck, disregarding the police dispatch request that he leave it to professionals to handle.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:43:19 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:26:24 2013.

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If you're sitting on a set instead of the halls of a courthouse playing let's make a deal, then you're not a particularly good attorney. :)

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:43:32 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:39:14 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So why was the jury told to consider it in deliberations?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:43:40 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:42:16 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
he was already out of the truck when he was told not to follow martin

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:44:04 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:33:16 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nor left wing quality. Forgot to add that.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:44:14 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:36:00 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL!

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Jul 16 22:45:09 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by fwt9000 on Tue Jul 16 17:35:51 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
lol! Sure would calm everyone down. Good god, at some of the responses here...

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:45:24 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:43:32 2013.

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the same reason they were told about self defense inside a dwelling, it's in the standard jury instructions.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:45:27 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:43:40 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! How many times has that been already?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:46:26 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:39:50 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You just spent half the night saying it had to be a reasonable perception of serious injury (which did not happen to Zimmerman) or loss of life. You can't shoot someone dead for a punch in the nose. Well, obviously you can in Floriduh, which is why there's a boycott developing.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 22:47:03 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:58:27 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
My favorite of his:




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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:49:11 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:46:26 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No. Once again, it's reasonable BELIEF that such force is necessary to PREVENT great bodily harm.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:52:14 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:44:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The left cares far more about justice than the RW. The flawed Floriduh law that permitted a murderer out on the street (and Zimmerman's not the only one) is a RW product.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:52:37 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by grand concourse on Tue Jul 16 22:45:09 2013.

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Why stop there? We could always hit up the Apple Museum and hand it off to a good old fashioned Mac 128! :)



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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:53:49 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:52:14 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Someone who was really concerned with justice wouldn't want to railroad a man with insufficient evidence of actual guilt of a crime.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:53:55 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:49:11 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh boy! I was waiting for that bottom yellow after punching for my lineup! :)

So wouldn't BELIEF infer religion? :)

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:54:58 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:53:55 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No. How do you figure that?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:55:15 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:53:49 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
predicted response: "a child is dead of course he's guilty"

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:55:26 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:45:24 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yet you (as in the RWers, you included) are claiming it's not a "stand your ground" case.

Self-defense within the home is permissible. Just prove the perp broke in and be sure the body is inside. And the gun is legal.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:56:18 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:54:58 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
he's being silly in order to distract from bingbong's stupidity.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 22:58:00 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:52:37 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That brings back bad memories. There are 2 Macs rotting away in some landfill mostly because of that shit. At least OS X got rid of that


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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:58:08 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:55:26 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
the fact that stand your ground is mentioned on the jury instructions doesn't make it a stand your ground case.

here's the thing, i don't favor stand your ground but it doesn't do anywhere near what most of it's opponents claim it does.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:58:09 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:56:18 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Actually, it's the other way around. :)

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:58:33 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:49:11 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wrong. Zimmerman had no proof of a credible threat of serious injury, much less his life. HE had the gun. There was no threat to him, so he's insane and/or LYING to say there was. Know what happens to insane gun shooters?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:58:57 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:54:58 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
BELIEF ... it's that thing when you don't have proof. Looks like daNd124's already figured out what's going on here. But he's got it backwards. :)

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 22:59:40 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 15:28:14 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Errr, genius, the laws in Florida have not suddenly changed. Why didn't you call for a boycott 2 years ago if you are upset by the laws. Nope, your answer makes no sense at all. Why am I not surprised?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:00:12 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:58:33 2013.

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there is evidence that martin had zimmerman pinned at the time of shooting.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:00:26 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:53:49 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Define insufficient evidence.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:00:32 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 16 16:10:42 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Has that changed in the past 2 years? 5 years? 10 years?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:01:46 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 22:58:00 2013.

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Heh. When I worked for the state, we had a bunch of those for the wigs. But definitely up to the task of dispensing justice. :)

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:02:23 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 16 17:57:49 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Has that suddenly changed? If it's as you claim why didn't we organize the boycott 5 years ago?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:02:53 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:58:57 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
A reasonable belief doesn't have to be true.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:03:11 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:00:26 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
there is zero evidence the zimmerman didn't act in self defense.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 23:03:23 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 16 19:45:37 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why don't you like the fucking place?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:03:39 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:03:11 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What he said.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:04:46 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 16 16:10:42 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
should be boycott California because of OJ Simpson and Robert Blake?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:05:19 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:58:08 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That it is included for consideration DOES. In fact, the juror mentioned they considered it very heavily in their (misguided) decision to spring this criminal.

This stupid "stand your ground" law has been enabling vigilantes all over Floriduh. Zimmerman is just the most famous case. Other states have some to strong delineations as to what a "stand your ground" case is, most expand castle doctrine to the owner's property outside the home itself. Floriduh's however, is a vigilante free for all.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:06:32 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:00:12 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There's evidence Mr Martin was the one that was pinned.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 23:07:09 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:02:53 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I know ... I'm just giggling over the religious arguments over that word when we're not spanking the monkey on this one. :)

And cue Dand on use of the word "monkey" now I suppose. Heh.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:07:16 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:05:19 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
the jury instructions also mentioned self defense in a dwelling, does that make this a self defense in a dwelling case?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:07:21 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 23:02:53 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
This isn't a reasonable belief. Zimmerman had a gun. Mr Martin did not.

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 23:08:41 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:06:32 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
what evidence is this and why didn't the prosecution introduce it at trial?

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Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 23:09:06 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 16 22:59:40 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The outcome of the case didn't occur until last Saturday. The answer of millions makes perfect sense. The system had it chance. It failed. Are you so callous and hateful to not see this?

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