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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:32:57 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:28:31 2013. We are not "reaching" for anything, we are using the actual evidence from the trial and the actual Florida law and procedures. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 20:32:57 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:08:25 2013. Aside from a dead child. Is Mr Martin's body not evidence enough? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:35:03 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 20:32:57 2013. No. Our court system is not for your personal sense of vengeance. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:37:59 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 16 20:30:21 2013. THAT is proportional force! That's why we refer to rods up here as "convincers" ... only a fool with a death wish would make you actually USE it. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:38:39 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:26:58 2013. If I caught UP with you and used it, perhaps. Please reread the limits that I didn't cross in my carefully constructed bait. :) |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:39:25 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:28:31 2013. listen to zimmerman's call to the police:Zimmerman got out of his car at 2:10 -2:13 he started breathing heavy(indicating he was running) at 2:18 he stopped breathing heavy at by 2:39 indicating he had stopped running in his further conversations with the dispatcher he still didn't know where martin was. that combined with where the altercation took place make me think he stopped following martin. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:42:27 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:28:32 2013. OK, slick ...
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:42:58 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:30:24 2013. But we're doing it here. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:43:52 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:32:05 2013. I suspect there would have been a better outcome though if he was watching Judge Judy. :) |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:44:14 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:42:27 2013. if he was on a UFO no one would have found his body... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:46:43 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:32:57 2013. OK ... just for argument's sake ... what was Zimmerman doing at the time he was grounded? From the evidence? Was he heading away from or towards his vehicle that 911 dispatch told him that it would be a good idea to just sit in? Fact is there's a LOT of evidence missing here.I won't even go into the evidence of the report by the attending paramedics that "treated and released on site" which is almost never done as to the "severity of injuries" ... we can argue the evidence all we want but the reality here is that there's a LOT of evidence missing and no eyewitnesses, and many of the claims here on OT "based on the evidence" is just as speculative as anybody else's interpretation. That's what I mean by "reaching" ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:53:17 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:39:25 2013. OK, so that establishes that he was out of his vehicle when he called, and did not return to it. Thanks for the actuality, that's a lot better than what little excerpting there was by the "media" but still doesn't offer much additional information. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:55:58 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:44:14 2013. Apparently you're not aware of the movie from where that whole Elvis thing derives ... "Men in Black I" for the record.And just to keep it all subchat and all, how do you know that really WAS Elvis? :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 20:56:08 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 19:52:17 2013. Which was NOT the operative here. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:07:11 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 19:51:52 2013. Great bodily harm is not loss of life. It could be loss of limbs, internal organ damage, anything that result in permanent incapacitating injury. That is the medical definition of "great bodily harm" and the definition regarded in law. Broken noses and abrasions do not qualify. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:08:17 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:38:39 2013. No. If you caught up with me and I had a reasonable belief that you would use it and that I was unable to escape. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:10:27 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:43:52 2013. Well, yeah. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:11:51 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 20:46:43 2013. Missing evidence hurts the prosecution, not the defense. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:12:37 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 20:56:08 2013. Yes it was. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:14:06 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:07:11 2013. It's not about the injuries he received, it's about the injuries a reasonable person in his situation would have expected to suffer. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 21:18:47 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:08:17 2013. Here in New York at least, I would have had to actually catch up with you. See the difference? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 21:22:44 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:10:27 2013. There ya go. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 21:24:08 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:11:51 2013. Of course ... but here we have a cast of armchair lawyers ... a lot of unanswered questions, a botched investigation, an incompetent prosecution and then the media ... which is why this whole thing has been a total mess. :( |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:26:28 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 21:24:08 2013. What armchair lawyers? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:31:49 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:20:47 2013. You still claim to be a libertarian. I say you're RW. You say you don't follow Googleron/Rand Paul. That makes you NOT a libertarian. You support the enabling of vigilantes, witness your posts on the Martin murder. That makes you RW. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 16 21:32:44 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:31:49 2013. Text corrected.You still claim to be a libertarian. I say you're RW. You say you don't follow Googleron/Rand Paul. That makes you NOT a libertarian. You support the enabling of vigilantes, witness your posts on the Mr Martin murder. That makes you RW. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:34:10 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:31:02 2013. I do. You keep proving it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:36:42 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 20:25:40 2013. Yes it could. But it would be a crime, and the shooter WOULD be headed to prison instead of Taco Bell in a bullet proof vest.
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:40:26 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:29:40 2013. So how exactly was he "pinned by" Mr Martin? This didn't happen IN the truck. He testified that he was NOT in the truck when the altercation began. He WAS following Mr Martin around on foot, and apparently he wasn't one of those strong man types dragging his truck along as he hunted down Mr Martin. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 21:41:23 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:26:28 2013. All of the pundits, as well as those here. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:42:53 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 20:35:03 2013. This isn't about my personal sense of vengeance . It is about a law that enables vigilantes. It is about a law that permits murder with the flimsiest of excuses. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:44:41 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:12:37 2013. There is no reasonable perception WRT loss of life based on a scrape and a broken nose. Bar fights often result in more serious injury. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 21:44:58 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 16 21:32:44 2013. Tell it like it is! Don't be shy ...
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:47:13 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 21:14:06 2013. Thank you for admitting Zimmerman is not a reasonable person. We have a breakthrough.No reasonable person would fear for their life based on those injuries. This entered barfight territory. Aside from Zimmerman's gun, there were no weapons besides fists apparent. Use of a gun is uncalled for it is disproportionate. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 21:54:59 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:36:42 2013. instead of Taco Bell in a bullet proof vest. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:01:35 2013, in response to BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 21:54:59 2013.  Please let us know when you're considering making sense again. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 16 22:06:22 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 19:51:52 2013. You might as well talk to a wall. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:09:43 2013, in response to BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 21:54:59 2013. Nancy Grace, yo ... for someone so glued to the media to report it all here, you missed THIS one?http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nancy-grace-george-zimmerman-going-back-to-life-of-driving-through-taco-bell-eating-churros/ Your grades for "King of all media" are incomplete. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:14:21 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:09:43 2013. LOL!!! As if. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 16 22:16:01 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:01:35 2013. I believe that is Coit Tower in San Francisco in the background between the pear and the giraffes. Here is another picture of said structure with some guy standing in front of it. Diageo USA routed the squad from Costa Rico one nil in another typically high scoring affair. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:19:08 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:01:35 2013. your taco bell comment. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:19:42 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:09:43 2013. that's racist and so was bingbong's comment. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:21:30 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 16 22:16:01 2013. Well that certainly explains the talking fruit. Laughed its dreadlocks off too. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 22:21:56 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:19:08 2013. Do you even READ what you post? :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:22:55 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:19:42 2013. It was taken from YOUR post. So YOU are the racist for bringing it up to begin with. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:26:24 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 16 21:41:23 2013. Some of those people actually are lawyers. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:27:43 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:22:55 2013. i never said that Zimmerman was eating at taco bell i post a story about someone who did. when there is a story posted about the use of racial slurs that doesn't make it acceptable to use those racial slurs. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 16 22:33:16 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 21:34:10 2013. The true administration of justice is not a right wing quality. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 16 22:34:55 2013, in response to Re: BINGBONG THE RACIST Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by daNd124 on Tue Jul 16 22:27:43 2013. You say it you endorse it unless you disclaim it in your OP. So don't be surprised when called on it. I mocked it, and deservedly so. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 16 22:35:22 2013, in response to Re: Why Are We Boycotting Florida, again?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 16 15:44:52 2013. The blind leading the blind! ;) |
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