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FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013 Washington Post story here, many more details to come I'm sure... |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:22:18 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. 
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:23:54 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. sounds like a runway overrun. |
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Boeing 777 crashes while landing at SFO Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while land |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:29:33 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/boeing-777-crashes-while-landing-sfo/nYfcx/A plane crashed while landing at San Francisco International Airport Saturday morning after its tail came off while it was touching down on the runway. According to a witness, around 11:30 a.m. the plane was just about to land -- its landing gear had come down -- when the tail of the plane came off. After wobbling for a minute, the aircraft flipped upside down, coming to a stop on runway on it's back, according to witness Kathy Muhler. When it came to a halt, smoke was pouring from the aircraft. Fire crews responded minutes later, Muhler said. According to Redwood City Fire Department, three alarms have been called and responding crews are reporting passengers in need of burn treatment. The plane, reportedly a Boeing 777, was identified as Asiana 214 and was coming from South Korea, according to flight tracking information. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 15:30:03 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. Live audio feedhttp://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/6336/web |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 15:31:43 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 15:30:03 2013. Pictures:https://twitter.com/kristaseiden/status/353583157355880448/photo/1 https://twitter.com/gknauss/status/353582854313242624/photo/1 http://instagram.com/p/bb0mk0OK84/# https://twitter.com/DoreCalifornia/status/353583899395375107/photo/1 |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 15:33:38 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 15:31:43 2013. From someone on the plane:https://twitter.com/Eunner/status/353592664526028801 |
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Re: Boeing 777 crashes while landing at SFO Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while land |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 15:36:13 2013, in response to Boeing 777 crashes while landing at SFO Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while land, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:29:33 2013. Looking at the plane on the news now. The tail is obviously missing, but just as obvious, the plane is not upside down. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:38:38 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. flights are being diverted to oakland and san jose |
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unconfirmed report all passengers Ok Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:42:15 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013.
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Re: unconfirmed report all passengers Ok Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 6 15:44:57 2013, in response to unconfirmed report all passengers Ok Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:42:15 2013. That would certainly be great if no one were seriously hurt. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:48:18 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. Watch ABC new they have John Nance on he really knows his stuff. |
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Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:49:40 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. they have John Nance on he really knows his stuff. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 15:53:56 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:48:18 2013. The guy on CNN nailed it. He said that it was almost certainly a landing or landing gear fault. Eyewitnesses are now confirming that. It sounds like either the gear failed or the plane landed early and heavy causing the tail to hit the runway. IOW pilot error. |
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Re: Watch CNN Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 15:55:02 2013, in response to Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:49:40 2013. They are already calling it. The debris starts on the approach before the runway even starts. Looks like pilot error. |
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Re: Watch CNN Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 15:57:10 2013, in response to Re: Watch CNN Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 15:55:02 2013. They are saying that while Asiana has new planes they have a history of accidents related to poor piloting. |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:00:06 2013, in response to Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:49:40 2013. Nance is speculating that they stalled at the last second like |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:00:59 2013, in response to Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:49:40 2013. Nance is speculating that they stalled at the last second like this flight |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 16:01:17 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 15:33:38 2013. His photo shows people evacuating and some of them appear to have their luggage. Based on what the plane looks like now, that could have been a needless tragedy.
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 16:07:16 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:00:59 2013. But none of the passengers are reporting a stall. It looks like it just landed early. Some are saying that it hit some rocks just off the water. |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 16:09:46 2013, in response to Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:49:40 2013. What channel is ABC News? Wimbledon is on my local ABC station. |
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Re: Watch CNN Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:10:30 2013, in response to Re: Watch CNN Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 15:55:02 2013. CNN reported that the wings broke offfollow this thread for the latest news |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:12:38 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 16:09:46 2013. ABC news stopped reporting to go to Wimbledon about 10 minutes ago |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:26:17 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. the plane landed to the right of where it should have. |
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now reporting 2 fatalities Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:27:41 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. local news here |
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Re: unconfirmed report all passengers Ok Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 16:37:33 2013, in response to Re: unconfirmed report all passengers Ok Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 6 15:44:57 2013. I've also read at least two dead. Too early to know for sure I think. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 16:38:28 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 16:01:17 2013. Some reports are now being made that at least two passengers died, so some passengers died while the woman in blue in this photo walked off with her luggage. Despicable if that is actually what happened. |
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ATC Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:49:09 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ksfo/KSFO-Twr-Jul-06-2013-1800Z.mp3 |
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Re: ATC Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:50:14 2013, in response to ATC Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:49:09 2013. from the sound of it they knew something was wrong before they landed |
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Re: ATC Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:54:14 2013, in response to ATC Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:49:09 2013. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 17:03:44 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 16:01:17 2013. The plane very well could have looked "worse for wear" afterwards because the left over fuel burned off. |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 17:04:30 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 16:09:46 2013. ABC News in New York City is Channel 7. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 17:14:08 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. sounds like some of the landing instruments were offline at SFO |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 17:16:15 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 17:14:08 2013. What are you rambling about? |
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Re: Boeing 777 crashes while landing at SFO Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while land |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Jul 6 17:17:55 2013, in response to Re: Boeing 777 crashes while landing at SFO Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while land, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 15:36:13 2013. Sounds like a hard tail strike on the landing. Hopefully the deat and injury count goes no higher. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 17:20:11 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 17:16:15 2013. KTVO said that some of landing instruments were down for scheduled maintenance.are you incapable of responding to something i post without a personal attack? |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Jul 6 17:21:09 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 16:07:16 2013. There was one witness saying it came in at an odd angle. That has me thinking the nose was still too high and the tail of the plane hit the runway before the rear wheels did. |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 17:28:58 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Charles G on Sat Jul 6 17:21:09 2013. That's what CNN was hypothesizing earlier. That the tail may have hit first (or just hit) either due to pilot error or a landing gear failure. |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 6 17:32:43 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 17:04:30 2013. 7 in LA also. |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Jul 6 17:33:42 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 17:28:58 2013. I think if it was a landing gear failure the plane would have broken nearer to the middle and there would be many more casualties. |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 17:35:15 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 17:20:11 2013. http://takeoffaviationweather.com/full_notams?airports=KSFO+KSQL+KLAX&fdc=0NAVAID Instrument Landing System Runway 28R Glide Path out of service started about 1 month ago ending in about 1 month |
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Re: Watch CNN Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 6 17:37:55 2013, in response to Re: Watch CNN Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 16:10:30 2013. Instant news scores again. :(Although I barely made the list of aviators, those sure do look like wings to me. But I'm probably wrong. :) |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 6 18:03:17 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 15:23:54 2013. no it doesn'tsounds like captain shorted 28L |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 18:07:42 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 6 18:03:17 2013. at this time yup at first it sounded like an overrun |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 6 18:57:33 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 17:28:58 2013. From where they are showing that the debris field begins, it looks like the pilot came in low and raised the nose to radically, causing the tail to strike the Jetty. That seems to be the consensus on CNN & FOX reports. |
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Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 6 19:15:59 2013, in response to Re: Watch ABC news Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 6 18:57:33 2013. Numerous eyewitnesses also said that the nose was up much higher than normal on its final approach - "low and slow" according to some "aviation experts" on the network newsers. Same thing happened in London back in 2008 ... |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 20:02:28 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 17:20:11 2013. are you incapable of responding to something i post without a personal attack?what...and stray from the fold? your pal, Fred |
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Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 6 20:52:29 2013, in response to Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by daNd124 on Sat Jul 6 17:35:15 2013. Irrelevant as to the crash. |
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2, possibly 3 dead, 304 survivors (Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes at SFO) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 6 21:04:55 2013, in response to FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; injuries unknown, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 6 15:18:41 2013. As per MSNBC - only 1 remains unaccounted for...that 304 or 305 survived is a minor miracle in itself. |
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Re: 2, possibly 3 dead, 304 survivors (Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes at SFO) |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 6 21:29:54 2013, in response to 2, possibly 3 dead, 304 survivors (Re: FAA: Asiana Airlines flight crashes at SFO), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 6 21:04:55 2013. I wonder if anyone died because they couldn't get out in time because people were grabbing their luggage ahead of them? |
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