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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 11:14:46 2013 providing legal advice for whatever it's worth |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 14:15:08 2013, in response to the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 11:14:46 2013. Who is "bingobong"? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 16:28:12 2013, in response to the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 11:14:46 2013. I'd watch it, you're on billable hours. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 16:31:02 2013, in response to the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 11:14:46 2013. You try passing the SubChat Bar Exam.I tried but was baffled. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Jul 3 16:53:31 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 16:31:02 2013. I was going to appeal your result, but I didn't have standing. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 16:55:46 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Charles G on Wed Jul 3 16:53:31 2013. if you stand up you'll have standing, but don't get your hopes up the jury gets to make up new laws. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 17:08:46 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Charles G on Wed Jul 3 16:53:31 2013. I was going to appeal your result, but I didn't have standing.I thank you for you attempt but my own appeal was turned down on Twentieth Amendment grounds. I didn't know that moving the date of the Presidential Inauguration had anything to do with a bar exam until I read the SubChat Code of Civil Procedure (after the fact of course). The judge also mentioned Tennessee v Scopes in dictum What can I say? My parents were right. I should have studied harder. Now I'm a washout. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 18:11:43 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 16:28:12 2013. Be careful, daNd124 will refuse to pay. :) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 18:14:25 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 16:55:46 2013. You are dumb. Juries don't get to make new laws. You need to repeat the sixth grade. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 18:16:05 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 18:11:43 2013. That's OK ... I'll take payment in weed. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 3 18:16:55 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 16:31:02 2013. I was stumped too, so I took the bartender job at Rocco's. Tips are good and the ravioli eats itself.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 18:17:08 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 18:14:25 2013. 
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 18:34:23 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 3 18:16:55 2013. After have my dreams of becoming an associate of the blue-chip law firm of Moreira & Bingbong crushed without mercy, cortelyounext hired me out of pity for an apprenticeship in the shaved ice trade.I'll be out in front of Red Bull Arena for the time being doling out shaved ice. I cannot stop thanking him for this opportunity. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 18:37:35 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 18:34:23 2013. Brings a tear to my eye ... (sniff!) ... God Bless America and God Bless the great state of New Jersey! :) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 19:48:29 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 18:17:08 2013. You are a first class IDIOT!!! More to Detroit if you love it so much. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 20:10:07 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 19:48:29 2013. You are a first class IDIOT!!! |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 3 20:41:32 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 18:34:23 2013. I applaud you for not using any Latin in your post, per se.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 3 20:41:39 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 18:34:23 2013. I applaud you for not using any Latin in your post, per se.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 20:48:13 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 3 20:41:32 2013. And THAT is why he failed the subchat bar. That is in addition to the fact that last call was hours ago and he's still face down in the back room. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 3 20:51:08 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 20:48:13 2013. That is so 1986...your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 20:54:37 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 20:10:07 2013. fight nicely!! I've never called you names. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 21:11:55 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 3 20:51:08 2013. Actually, more 27 right with wheels up. :) |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 00:36:59 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 18:14:25 2013. You are dumb. Juries don't get to make new laws.yes they do it's called precedent |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jul 4 10:36:55 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 00:36:59 2013. Show the truth!! When was the last time you were in a jury? |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 10:55:34 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 00:36:59 2013. Funny thing, I said that earlier. Yet you persist in saying I'm wrong while you say *exactly* the same? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 11:02:18 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 10:55:34 2013. Juries do not set precedent. The judge is there to see that the jury rules solely on the evidence. Juries do occasionally acquit when a person is guilty but the circumstances are exceptional. That is known as "Jury Nullification" but that is a one time thing and does not set precedent. I guess that makes you wrong again - doesn't it? |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 11:20:48 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 10:55:34 2013. lol |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 12:26:49 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 11:02:18 2013. Wrong. The judge is there as moderator for the proceedings. They ensure the rules are followed. If a jury decides (turns out in Florida a prosecutor and/or a jury can find a verdict on a lesser charge without it being officially charged to begin with....Selkirk looked it up). The entire point of a jury is to render a verdict. If they find something nobody thought up and it survives appeal....that's a precedent setting. From there, it becomes established law as it is used in subsequent decisions.So this jury could find, based on the fact that Zimmerman was pursuing Mr Martin, that he had no "ground" yet Mr Martin, who was rightfully and peaceably there did and return with a manslaughter conviction. You're assuming he's not guilty. He killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed young man. The question is entirely the degree of criminality. I do not assume he's not guilty, there's proof of criminality. Zimmerman's own words speak of profiling. Do you think vigilantes deserve to walk whenever they kill? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 12:30:35 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 12:26:49 2013. You are wrong - again. I am not discussing any particular case. I am discussing the topic in general. So as I said, you are |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 13:29:18 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 20:10:07 2013. be careful you just committed a felony and will be arrested next time you step foot in Baltimore. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 4 15:25:53 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 12:26:49 2013. The jury is solely the trier of fact. The judge is the trier of law. Any sort of legal opinion that might be precedential is issued by the judge. And even then, trial court proceedings aren't precedential except before the same judge (because the judge is probably going to rule again the same way given the same situation). Precedential value is only attached to appellate rulings in the same jurisdiction. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 16:02:08 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 12:26:49 2013. You're assuming he's not guilty. the law assumes he is not guilty until proven otherwise. i've never claimed that he isn't guilty just that there is not enough evidence to convict him. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 16:18:53 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira, bingobong & Lawrence, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 13:29:18 2013. He won't even make it to Frederick. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 16:19:01 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 16:02:08 2013. He is guilty(he even admitted it) and there is evidence to convict him of a felony....it just apparently isn't murder. FL law permits the prosecutor and jury to recommend a verdict on a lesser crime over the course of the trail, like manslaughter. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 16:21:16 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 16:19:01 2013. He is guilty(he even admitted it)no he hasn't and there is evidence to convict him of a felony what evidence is this? |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 16:34:47 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 12:30:35 2013. Wrong. You ARE discussing the case you just won't admit it. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jul 4 17:43:51 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira, bingobong & Lawrence, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 16:18:53 2013. Goody!!!!!!:) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 18:01:00 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 16:34:47 2013. Where in anything that I said did I make it specific to the Zimmerman case? Sounds like you are going into carbo-overload again. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 18:13:06 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 4 15:25:53 2013. She still will not relent. She now awaits dippy dan lawrence to agree with her so she can feel vindicated. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 18:25:10 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 18:01:00 2013. Your discussing it to begin with. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 18:37:39 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira, bingobong & Lawrence, posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jul 4 17:43:51 2013. Bad news is he might leave a stain in Towson. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 18:47:02 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 18:25:10 2013. Wrong again bingster. The subject got changed between Charkes G and Smaz. The posts that were responded to were in response to this post which simply did not refer to the Zimmerman case. It was in reference to banter about Subchat Law School or something like that. Please don't take my word for it though. Read from this point on. I will take into account that you cannot and will not ever admit that you are wrong. So if you do not respond, I will assume that you concede the point and we can move on - peacefully. Remember, we are keeping score. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 18:54:00 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 16:21:16 2013. Plenty of evidence of reckless conduct on his part. If the charge were criminally negligent homicide rather than murder there might be a decent chance of conviction. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 18:58:22 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 18:54:00 2013. was it criminal recklessness under Florida law? his actions didn't place anyone but himself in danger. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 18:58:42 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 4 18:47:02 2013. 
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 18:59:15 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 18:58:22 2013. i mean his proven actions, he could have done something that there is no evidence for. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 4 18:59:24 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 18:58:22 2013. He shot a gun. Had that bullet NOT killed Trayvon Martin, it could have killed someone else. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 18:59:48 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 18:58:22 2013. So Trayvon's alive? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 4 19:07:17 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 18:58:22 2013. his actions didn't place anyone but himself in dangerAs is proved by the fact that no one but him was hurt. |
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Posted by daNd124 on Thu Jul 4 19:07:33 2013, in response to Re: the law firm of Moreira & bingobong, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 4 18:59:48 2013. Trayvon's dead because of the fight if Zimmerman started the fight then Zimmerman is responsible of Martin started the fight than martin is responsible. since there is no evidence Zimmerman should be found not guilty. Zimmerman following martin did not put martin in any danger. |
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