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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 7 13:45:13 2012, in response to I'm baffled, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 7 09:24:49 2012.

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This is the second saddest day in America since 9/11. Even worse than Obama's first win in 2008.

Up where you are in Chicago, nothing will improve. Probably gonna get worse.

We've lost America.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 7 13:45:41 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 7 13:25:49 2012.

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Haha! I like to watch :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 13:51:31 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 13:12:42 2012.

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Can't you see that POLITICS IS ITS OWN FORM OF RELIGION?
Take a GOOD look at how the political system is structured..THEN take a look at how the "CHURCH" is structured from it core out..you wiil see the damn near identical "systematic functionality" between the two.

How do you keep politics and "religion" apart..when you know like I do that they are intertwined..?
People often look for their representatives to line up with their core beliefs..core principles..core values.
If not ALL of them..SOME OF THEM..

When looking at it from THAT PROSPECTIVE..Most Americans are GOD FEARING,and look to other to be the same way..this is why the Right can draw them in via the TEA PARTY Extremist and other various groups.
I don't knock that..If a man or woman is rooted in GOD,then his foundation is strong.He can build a strong house on it, that wont fail.

But,does THAT have a place in the political circle..arena..?

can a person "govern" without being radical..religious..?
Can a person do his job with the baggage?

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Nov 7 13:56:13 2012, in response to I'm baffled, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 7 09:24:49 2012.

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Today is a new day - - we have our Commander-in-Chief and President until January 19th, 2017. Deal with it.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Nov 7 13:57:05 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 7 09:28:19 2012.

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Hmmm, must be the Koch brothers. Oil runs thick in this family.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 13:59:26 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled DON'T WORRY Iran's Toast. Thank you Mr. President, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Nov 7 10:47:23 2012.

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Yeah, tell that to Neda Agha-Soltan and lots of others, rocKKKparKKKislamicterroristsupportingNAZI!

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 14:00:06 2012, in response to I'm baffled, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 7 09:24:49 2012.

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What's to be baffled about? The GOP ran a liberal candidate, and they lost again.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Nov 7 14:02:57 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 7 13:27:20 2012.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 14:17:04 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 13:51:31 2012.

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This is a relatively new phenomenon. In 1980, when Reagan won his landslide victory, Tip O'Neill sat down with him and compromised. He gave him many of his tax cuts. Can you imagine the leader of Congress actually compromising with the President of the other party now or in the future?

I still think Bush V Gore was a pivotal moment in the political history of our country and that it will reverberate for decades, if not longer.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 14:30:29 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 7 10:31:39 2012.

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Thanks for showing how vile the left are.



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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 7 14:40:17 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 7 13:45:41 2012.

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funny movie

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 7 14:41:19 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Nov 7 14:02:57 2012.

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cool

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 7 14:43:00 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 14:30:29 2012.

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Your hero.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 7 14:43:07 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 7 13:45:13 2012.

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IAWTLP

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:03:49 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 7 14:43:00 2012.

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Yours! He's mayor of Rome after all.

And nobody is on your side over that vile reply to the OP.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 15:14:45 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 12:32:55 2012.

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That's the difference between the left and the right, the right lives their politics. The conservatives here didn't whine last night. The left is expert at whining when they don't get their way.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 15:15:04 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 12:32:55 2012.

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That's the difference between the left and the right, the right doesn't live their politics. The conservatives here didn't whine last night. The left is expert at whining when they don't get their way.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:17:55 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 15:14:45 2012.

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Note how some liberals expected us to react in an emotional way. One even started a thread betting on how long I'd say away from OTChat because of last night's results. To them politics is emotional and quasi-religious.

If you value your politics over your family, faith and/or community, you are probably a perpetually bitter person.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:20:02 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:17:55 2012.

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If you value your politics over your family, faith and/or community

Those are the hallmarks of Marxists. Destroy the family, destroy faith, even destroy the "bourgeois" community.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:23:48 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:20:02 2012.

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I agree with this completely. Many progressives have rejected traditional values for the pursuit of politics. "Activists" are the new missionaries.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 15:30:14 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:17:55 2012.

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It's crazy. I am disappointed with the results, but life goes on. Can you imagine the screaming last night by the usual suspects if the results were reversed? Liberals LIVE their politics.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:33:23 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 15:30:14 2012.

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An argument can be made that this fact is why they won. It's something I've argued for a while now, that liberals win because they never give up, while conservatives move on from defeat. No matter how many Roman legions Hannibal annihilated, the Romans simply dug in and created new ones. Eventually, they won. There's just no way I can fight a political battle on those terms.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 7 15:33:49 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:17:55 2012.

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To them politics is emotional and quasi-religious.

Because many of us don't believe in any supernatural religion. To me, the founders and preservers of this Republic are the greatest men to have ever lived.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 7 15:34:34 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:20:02 2012.

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Faith is irrational.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:35:38 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 7 15:33:49 2012.

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I'm not religious. I don't need politics to give my life the meaning religion gives to the religious.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:36:08 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 7 15:34:34 2012.

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True, but it's also human. A totally rational person is a sociopath.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 7 15:37:40 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:17:55 2012.

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To them politics is emotional and quasi-religious.

it's not politics but the love for my country that is emotional and quasi-religious.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by DANd124 on Wed Nov 7 15:38:19 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:17:55 2012.

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the reason i thought you'd stay away is because of how wrong you were about a the accuracy of the polls not because of the results alone.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:39:27 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:35:38 2012.

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Leftists still trying to pigeonhole ye? No surprise there. As Saul Alinsky said, "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:43:19 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 7 15:34:34 2012.

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. . . says a wholly irrational poster who thinks he's RonInBayside.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by DANd124 on Wed Nov 7 15:44:27 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:17:55 2012.

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also the way you stopped posting once it became clear the Obama was relected last night made us think you ran away.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:45:28 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:36:08 2012.

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You falling into that trap? Rationality defined by whose parameters?

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 7 15:45:43 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:36:08 2012.

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You are confusing irrationality with emotion, just like Star Trek writers.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:46:14 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 7 15:37:40 2012.

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Conservatives are just as patriotic, just for different reasons. It's safe to say anyone with strong political views loves their country. Who strongly supports a political policy because they want to see it harm them?

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:47:54 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 7 15:37:40 2012.

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Which country is that, eh?

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:48:34 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:46:14 2012.

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It's safe to say anyone with strong political views loves their country

No it isn't. The left is internationalist.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:58:28 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 7 15:45:43 2012.

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No, I am saying that someone who reacts to every issue with rational thought and not emotion is a sociopath. You can rationalize anything without faith. It's this fact that keeps me going full atheist.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:59:22 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:58:28 2012.

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I am saying that someone who reacts to every issue with rational thought and not emotion is a sociopath

How would such a person's thoughts be rational, then?

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 7 16:20:09 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 7 15:39:27 2012.

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LMAO!!!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 16:23:57 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 15:14:45 2012.

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HUH?

You whined MORE than anyone else!

LOL!

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 16:26:53 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:17:55 2012.

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YOU DID REACT in a "emotional way".

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 16:33:45 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 7 15:34:34 2012.

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no..You are Irrational..which is Why you cannot grasp the concept.
But you HAVE FAITH in your company to PAY you for the work you provide them..you have FAITH in you ability to operate a car,so you can travel.
You have FAITH in your cognitive ability, "rationalizing" different concepts.

You sure have "faith" in yourself.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 16:35:25 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:58:28 2012.

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huh?
come again?

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 16:41:18 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 15:33:23 2012.

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you dudes are funny as heck..

here is the moment of reflection..when "acceptance" set in..and you wax poetic notions about the true meanings of life..!

You guys went through EVERY stage of a terminal patients self realization that life is finite..

sad really..

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 16:49:42 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 16:23:57 2012.

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Where? After Obama won? When?

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 16:50:41 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by DANd124 on Wed Nov 7 15:44:27 2012.

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Some people have wives, girlfriends, and LIVES outside of the computer and 'SubChat". If you were able to spend every waking hour here last night more power to you.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 7 16:51:31 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 16:23:57 2012.

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Wrong. Chris made an excellent post regarding the results of yesterday's election.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 16:56:43 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 7 16:51:31 2012.

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Thank you Fred, and I meant it. Again, I am not happy with the results, but I accepted it immediately, and even congratulated the President. NO WHERE did I whine. AT ALL.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 17:00:23 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 16:49:42 2012.

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THIS WAS MY post on the results of the election. THIS is "more whining than anyone"???
Some of you hard leftists really need to get a life. YOu really do live your politics, and you just proved yourself.

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Re: I'm baffled

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 17:06:10 2012, in response to Re: I'm baffled, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 7 17:00:23 2012.

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I've got a business to run..dont have time to whine about crap as much as you have done,mr extremist..

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