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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 21:09:42 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Gormogon on Tue Jul 10 20:00:05 2012.

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Welcome to the boards, but I had anticipated this coming up, however the use of 75 terrorists to generalize over tens of thousands of terrorists is incorrect. The attacks you used were major attacks and required the most intelligent operatives to carry out the missions. Osama himself was born into a rich family. However I did not say ALL terrorists are poor, or uneducated.

As from the artricle: "Fighting Radicalism, not ‘Terrorism’: Root Causes of an International Actor Redefined Ömer Taspınar"

"The argument that socioeconomic deprivation is unrelated to radicalism and terrorism is erroneous for a number of reasons. First, the argument is based on a very narrow and exclusive focus on ‘elite’ terrorist leaders. As terrorism expert Judy Barsalou points out: “Effective terrorist groups rely on a division of labor between young and uneducated ‘foot soldiers’ and ideologically trained and well-funded elite operatives. In Pakistan, the former are often plucked from madaris.”11 It is therefore important to acknowledge that while terrorist leaders tend to come from professional classes, the foot soldiers are often poor and uneducated. One should also not be confused by the fact that at the highest level, the implementation of terrorist activity requires proficient organizational skills and sophistication. The poorest and least educated masses can be recruited and radicalized by terrorist masterminds. Yet, they would make ineffective terrorists in a complex operation. Indeed, the more complex an operation is, the greater security risks it entails, and the more likely the participants are to be elite—the result of a careful screening process. All these factors only reinforce the importance of addressing the question of relative deprivation, frustrated achievers, and radicalism as a social milieu"

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/articles/2009/9/summer%20fall%20radicalism%20taspinar/summer_fall_radicalism_taspinar.pdf

Then from the same article this must be pointed out:
"From Somalia to Afghanistan, from Mali to Yemen, from Chechnya to the Pakistani Federally Administered Tribal Areas and to the Philippine island of Mindanao, ungoverned spaces often attract terrorist networks that use these territories for two major purposes: (1) as a staging ground for international attacks, and (2) to recruit uneducated and impoverished young men with no prospects.14"

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/articles/2009/9/summer%20fall%20radicalism%20taspinar/summer_fall_radicalism_taspinar.pdf

Terrorists come from all over the world and all social-economic backgrounds, however there are always more foot soldiers than generals as they say.

To further my point about education, the US also saw it as important:
"Madrassahs, or Islamic schools, are a particular concern, for these train the next generation of jihadis and terrorists. Washington deploys several tactics to counter their influence:

In Pakistan, U.S. funds go discreetly to third parties to train madrassah teachers to add practical subjects (math, science, and health) to their curriculum, as well as civics classes. A "model madrassah" program that may eventually include more than a thousand schools is also now underway.

In the Horn of Africa (defined by the Pentagon as Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen), the U.S. military finds out where Islamists plan to start a madrassah, then builds a public school in direct competition with it."


and

"In at least two dozen countries, Kaplan writes:

Washington has quietly funded Islamic radio and TV shows, coursework in Muslim schools, Muslim think tanks, political workshops, or other programs that promote moderate Islam. Federal aid is going to restore mosques, save ancient Korans, even build Islamic schools…individual CIA stations overseas are making some gutsy and innovative moves. Among them: pouring money into neutralizing militant, anti-U.S. preachers and recruiters. "If you found out that Mullah Omar is on one street corner doing this, you set up Mullah Bradley on the other street corner to counter it," explains one recently retired official. In more-serious cases, he says, recruiters would be captured and "interrogated." Intelligence operatives have set up bogus jihad websites and targeted the Arab news media."


Both quotes are from the Article "Washington Finally Gets it on Radical Islam" from http://www.danielpipes.org/2546/washington-finally-gets-it-on-radical-islam

We keep focused on the few terrorists that do the major attacks, but not the thousands of foot soldiers that come from poor and uneducated countries. The US hasn't luckily and they are trying. But it was nice to see someone here counter me with actual articles. It's been a while!

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