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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Thu Dec 2 11:37:53 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 2 00:51:48 2010.

>>>>>There is plenty of information to make a decision about the existence of god, namely the complete lack of evidence of his existence, which leads one to the conclusion that he can be regarded to be nonexistent

He "can be regarded to be" instead of he "is". Why the ambiguity in language?

God can be regarded to be nonexistent just like the Tooth Fairy and the Boogie Man can be regarded to be nonexistent. I cannot prove that any of these things do not exist. But, it's not up to me to prove that these things don't exist, it's up to those that claim that they do to prove that they in fact do.

>>>> The Western concept of marriage and family is a culturally recent and unusual invention

That's a lie. And it's not a Western concept exclusively.

Certainly when one takes into account all the trimmings of Western marriage, such as sexual monogamy and the nuclear family, in addition to other factors such as the relative ease of divorce and being able to enter several in one's life time, then this is quite unique to Western society. That being said, all I said initially was that the Western idea of marriage is, from an anthropological stand point quite unusual, for the biggest reason being the absence of pologyny, among others.

The US Constitution is rooted in the Ten Commandments.

Quite false. For one, only two of the Ten Commandments are actual American laws. Two, the Founders went to great lengths to ensure a separation of religion and government.

And there's the second POTUS' opinion on the matter:

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

And here's the third's:

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity."

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear."

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."

"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."

Among many other things that he and the other Founders have said against religion, Christianity in particular.

>>>>>as societies have moved away from religion they have moved towards a greater sense of morality and human welfare, and have moved away from the barbarism demanded by religious "morality," such as the stoning of women and homosexuals, the genocide of whole ethnic groups, and the enslavement of people

. . . with the USSR and People's Republic of China as shining examples of same. Ever read the Black Book of Communism?

In the words of Bill Maher, communism is a state religion. As our friend Scrabbleship recently demonstrated, it's a set of dogmatic beliefs that are held to without scrutiny or support of the empirical evidence, and in fact in contradiction to what the evidence shows, just like religions such as Christianity, Mormonism, or Scientology.

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