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Posted by soton si on Tue Aug 28 17:07:39 2007, in response to Re: nonsense about atheism, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Aug 28 15:34:14 2007. "Unsupported assertion. The New Testament is at best parable and advertising."Unsupported Assertion. Do you want me to quote some scholars? You evidence to back that up, if you will... "And they all make unprovable claims." As do you. that one for instance. Yet however you treat your view that they can't be objectively true, as objective true. Pot, meet Mr Kettle. "That's true of other religious figures in other religions." Indeed, which further undermines your statement about religion being for the wealth and happiness. "North African berbers practiced Islam and to this day have a pretty good standard of living. Tunisia and Morocco have always been places of tolerance for both Muslims and other religions, in contrast to Saudi Arabia. The despotism in Egypt is tribal, not religious; the opposition to it borrows the Sufist Islam as a radical crutch." In terms of freedom, we're talking the level of North Korea (for Libya). (see link below). Who cares if the despotism is tribal, the freedom for Muslims is still low - there's no freedom inside that wide net of Islam (well, some, but not much - you can't be a Sufi, for instance). "Tunisia today has better human values than the Vatican." this would make that seem unlikely (it doesn't have the Vatican, sadly). The best Muslim majority country is Turkey, at 3.5. Morocco is the best North African country, followed by Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt (a massive improvement, it used to be at 6.5 just a couple of years ago) at a hopeless 5.5, and Libya at 7, which is the lowest score possible. OK, some of these low scores would be because it's horrific to not be a Muslim in these places (or at least not be a Muslim or "person of the book", though that's 2nd class status anyway) but a lot of these are because of the imposition of Islamic rules on Muslims who don't even want them. Tunisia being "not free" hardly sounds the place that is tolerant. |
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