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Re: nonsense about atheism

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Aug 28 15:34:14 2007, in response to Re: nonsense about atheism, posted by soton si on Tue Aug 28 15:09:02 2007.

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"if I thought it was a house of cards, then surely I wouldn't be putting it through robust debate?"

Of couse you would, to convince yourself. But you're free to do that, as you like.

"I'm advocating teaching something that is true"

True to the religion as interpreted by someone who believes the story.

"Surely teaching evolution is religious proselytizing, forcing them to abandon their religious views "

No. It is science. We can teach the earth is round, but that might offend someone who's religion demands the earth is flat. Therefore, we teach evolution, despite the religious objections.

"Ann Rice is fiction. The New Testament is non-fiction"

Unsupported assertion. The New Testament is at best parable and advertising.

"Islam, Judaism, Atheism, Christianity all hold their religion to be objectively true, as do many others."

And they all make unprovable claims.

"tell that to Paul - an impoverished, abused, tortured person who gave up his rich life having religion serve him with wealth, respect and so on because he changed his religion."

That's true of other religious figures in other religions.

"Tell that to the thousands who subscribe to Islam across North Africa,"

North African berbers practiced Islam and to this day have a pretty good standard of living. Tunisia and Morocco have always been places of tolerance for both Muslims and other religions, in contrast to Saudi Arabia. The despotism in Egypt is tribal, not religious; the opposition to it borrows the Sufist Islam as a radical crutch. Tunisia today has better human values than the Vatican.





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