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Re: nonsense about atheism

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Aug 27 17:41:02 2007, in response to Re: nonsense about atheism, posted by soton si on Mon Aug 27 16:25:58 2007.

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"I can't tell what you are saying as you are making statements that contradict each other!"

Simple. Majority rule with minority safeguards. Always in balance. The Constitution helps a lot.

"They know why they haven't found Mozart's body - he was buried in a mass grave, as a pauper, in a recyclable coffin (the bottom was a door - pull the latch, the body falls out). I don't know who Jimmy Hoffa is..."

Jimmy Hoffa was head of the Teamsters. He disappeared and is presumed murdered; suspicion fell on union rivals. A favorite theory is that he's entobed in some concrete structure somewhere.

"where is a wealth of evidence, with respect to Jesus, "

False. There is a wealth of faith and mythology, not evidence. Oe must believe it by Christian faith. By contrast, Jewish faith generaly does not support a resurrection.

"Can you scientifically prove that?"

Yes, actually. Compare the vast number of religions out there now. Do Hindus believe in Jesus' resurrection? Do Buddhists? What about Jews? They generally reject the New Testament. What about Mormons? Do you accept the Book of Mormon in the whole, as you would the Bible? What about the Quran? Are all the truths there the same as in the New Testament?

So who's right? Again, it all depends on which belief system you want.

"So likewise tax shouldn't be used for anyone to teach an opinion that isn't scientifically proven, say in an English class that Macbeth is a study of the nature of human evil, as it's unable to be proven scientifically, and therefore an alternative viewpoint that it was written solely to make money and please the King is just as true?"

Literature classes are Constitutional. Comparative religion classes are too. But not organized prayer and proselytizing.

There is no evidence for Jesus' resurrection. It is your burden of proof to show there was a resurrection.

"By faith you choose not to believe"

No, by faith you choose to believe. If you can prove that there was a resurrection (no one has succeeded yet) and that no one else can possibly be resurrected except Jesus (what about Jesus Hernandez of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania? Can he be resurrected?), then I'll believe in the resurrection. The odds of your doing so are so long that I can be confident you'll never succeed.

But if you do, we'll talk again.



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