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Re: nonsense about atheism

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Aug 27 15:48:06 2007, in response to Re: nonsense about atheism, posted by soton si on Mon Aug 27 15:27:42 2007.

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"You say that as the majority don't want it, then the minority have to bend to their way."

Correct. That's also why a majority of whites sitting in a school cannot exclude a black person from attending the school. Majority rule is the norm, but the Constitution protects the minority, at the same time. Individual rights are balanced against group interests.

"should be places for practical atheism"

That is not atheism. It's merely a place where forced prayer is not allowed.

If a majority of people in a carraige on the London UndergrounD want to blast a stereo at 200 decibels and consume methamphetamine and a few people on the same car don't want it, who should prevail? According to you, the majority should. However, in a mature democracy, the majority do not have unfettered rights.

"yes they should be taught that prayer is appropriate anywhere,"

How about in the middle of a lecture? Should students be allowed to break into prayer while the instructor is reviewing polynomials? How about during English history class? Should the teacher cancel 30 minutes of his lecture any time students ask him because they want to pray right then and there?

Obviously there are limits to everything.

"that people have believed it, because of the evidence,"
They didn't believe it because of evidence. They believed it for the same reason they believe all kinds of superstitions. There's no evidence at all - but the belief doesn't depend on evidence.

"If the Jewish/Roman authorities could find and show Jesus' body"

Mozart's body was not found either. Neither was Jimmy Hoffa's. How do we know they're not resurrected too? Maybe instead of praying to Jesus, you should be praying to Jimmy Hoffa.

"so likewise, as countless thousands of people don't believe in evolution,"

The difference is that evolution is a proven process with well-documented scientific and physical evidence. There are competing theories for how it happened, with Genesis' first account of it and Darwin's work being advanced by many scientists since then. The resurrection of Jesus relies purely on a particular brand of faith.

"You're basically saying that if science doesn't prove it, it's a myth, and that all myths are equally valid, because of religious freedom"

Essentially correct. I religion, there is no one proof, nor one truth. There is whatever truth you want to believe, and you aree entitled to believe it, but you are inherently in conflict with other taxpayers who do not believe it. Thus, when you enter a tax-payer supported institution, your imposition of your religious "truth" o others must be suspended.



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