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Posted by soton si on Mon Aug 27 13:56:26 2007, in response to Re: nonsense about Religion in England, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Aug 27 13:13:07 2007. "And if they do, so what? If you are inclined to be more fervent, rather than less, that's your privilege. Nobody is stopping you."Indeed, however you asked about "don't they just go elsewhere" so I was saying yes. ""The CofE leaders supported it, even though it had the possibility of making it illegal to publically state the 39 articles and say that they were true." I see nothing wrong with the Church saying they are true - but I don't want the State saying so, because the State represents everyone - not just Church of England." However, that is by-the-by, as this was an example of the Church and State trying to silence those who actually still believe the state religion (amongst others). This wasn't the state saying these things are true, but them possibly making saying those things illegal. Again, you are dodging the context of these quotes of mine. Do you not feel that the possibility of a new law effectively banning the official religion of the state to be an attack on that religion by the state? That the church supported shooting it's own foot adds to it. I am disestablishmentarianist, because the state corrupts the church, and that the majority of people aren't part of the church, the church shouldn't be officially part of the state. I won't go whole hog and kick bishops out of the Lords, though, preferring to have a range of officially recognised religions' leaders sitting in there. I'm sure most British people would agree, even if it was just to get brilliant comments like "the Archbishop of Canterbury is unprincipled as he and two bishops voted against a new law allowing super casinos, which he has been outspoken against" in the press. It's always funny to see journalists not having a clue what they are saying! Then again, the Lords will become mostly elected with the new constitution (making only Israel and Iceland the only states not to have one written down) - there won't be much room for religious leaders (including Dawkins, though he'd hate to be counted as a religious leader) with all the David Beckhams and so on filling up the upper house. |
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