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Re: People abroad not liking us

Posted by tracksionmotor on Mon Jan 31 23:52:19 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Clayton on Mon Jan 31 20:07:08 2005.

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Clayton: You, like many have been victimised by 'revisionist history' abeit we both were students decades ago. When fuedal Japon
allowed Western Eeurpeans in to trade during the reign of Hideyoshi
and the Toyotomi Shogunate in the fifteenth centrury, they thought
that they were on the 'receiving end,' getting the best of the deal.
The Spanish galleons sunk loaded with gold and precious gems. The Portuguese didn't fair much better. The Dutch were sucessful traders but eventually all would be dumped because of the Jesuits conspiracies on behalf of Rome. Only the Dutch were allowed to trade from a secure island, having no contact with the 'mainland.'

In 1853, a US Navy admiral (just forgot his name...senior moment) approached the shores of Japon. His warships operated under the 'Jackson Doctrines' if I remember correctly. The Japanese were both overwhelmed and impressed. Things started to change...contact was made with Western Europe and representatives were exchanged. By 1867, the Shogunate was ended in the 'Reformations' and Japon was divided into 37 Prefectures. 'Adept, adapt and adopt' became the Japanese creed. Railroads, telegraph, centerfire rifles, breech loading cannon, steam driven warships, telephones and the Victrola
came into play. Japon was discovering that their internal resources were limited and that they had to pay western nations for technology.
The culmination of this was the defeat of Russian Czarist forces during the Russo-Japanese war. So much a power that the 'little yellow peoples of Japon' became an important ally in WW1...so much so that the League of Nations imposed restrictions upon the growth of the Japanese Navy because of FEAR.

It did not end there. They got even with China and Korea, sucking out raw materiels. A modern Navy doesn't run on its 'stomach' but bunker oil...fuel. Dutch East Indies was the first target, then came IndoChina. The WW2 was an economic war at first because the US cut off raw materiel sales. None of their stinking little islands had any resources to be taken...they expanded themselves into the 'Greater Far Eastern Sphere of Economic co-Prosperity.'

When WW2 was over, it wasn't long before the Japanese re-entered their former 'allied' nations to cut some rip-off deals. Few know of the Axis power plans during WW2 to take control of key resource sites. Both the Japanese and the Germans had 'Tiger Batallions' of Indians who believed that they would eventually liberate India from British rule...Germanys first attempt at a para-drop was quite sucessful with several hundred soldiers but the majority of the five thousand man force never ever left to start another front. Japon didn't fair well.

Today, take a walk along Fifth Avenue. The Japanese tourists and business people are no longer the yellow skinned liver diseased 'little people' living off an inadequate fish diet...they are as tall and strong as us with their skin as white as ours. THEY know that they need outside resources, taking advantage of our Navy keeping THEIR shipping lanes safe. They also know about pollution...collecting weapons grade plutonium to be used in a fusion breeder reactor system instead of burning oil...making them a major nuclear power. You don't have to test a bomb like India or Pakistan when you can simulate it on a computer.

Still can't remember the Admirals name.

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