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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 3 16:06:09 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Gamera on Sun Aug 3 14:20:22 2014. The principle on which a country was founded is absolutely irrelevant.Since you don't seem to understand it and haven't provided any actual reasons for opposing it, I guess this statement stands. However, if you'd like to explain why our societies must be constrained by the ignorance of long-dead ancestors, be my guest. No it was not. Slavery was NOT the driving force behind the revolution. It's in the Constitution. It was the law until said Constitution was amended, a century later. It was placed in the Constitution to begin with because half of the country refused to be a country if it wasn't and decided to stop being part of the country on the threat of its removal. That makes it a founding principle. Wrong. They were founded based on nationality / culture. Just because they were ruled by kings was incidental. A nation was founded based on nationality? Say what? That the king had a supposed divine right to rule was central to their beliefs. They fought wars over which king had a divine right to rule what. By your own argument, the fact that Israel is inhabited by Jews is incidental. The world would be a happier place if every ethnicity had its own country So you support segregation, then. Huh. Your apartheid utopia would quickly collapse, of course— strict segregation by ethnicity would lead to the resurgence of racism followed by wars and genocide. Basically, the Israel/Palestinian conflict on a global scale. None of those things need to change the ethnic or religious balance of a country. It isn't about the ethnic or religious balance of any countries, it's about your absurd belief that the circumstances of a country's origin must constrain its growth in perpetuity. I named three other countries who abandoned their "founding" principles and asked whether you believed they are now "destroyed." Well? Just because the United States is a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country does not mean that the rest of the countries in the world also needs to be like us. No, but the fact that tribalism is primitive bullshit our species needs to grow out of does mean that every country in the world should be multi-cultural and multi-ethnic. Not so much multi-religious— we should be growing out of that too. You think that the whole world should be like the US - why are you trying to impose your American culture on the world? Aren't you the arrogant one! Oh please, this cultural relativist bullshit is annoying enough coming from some dipwad who actually believes it. Hearing it spewed disingenuously from someone who advocates genocide in the name of Israeli and/or Jewish supremacy is just stupid. I'll just remind you that by your own argument you must approve of the Holocaust. Wouldn't want to arrogantly impose cultural values of freedom and acceptance on Germany now, would we? Israel was founded as a Jewish state Yes, and as I've pointed out, (a) no country has any business privileging one religion over another, and (b) the prejudices of a country's founders should not limit its future growth. It is a democracy and there is no slavery there. So all of your attempts to divert the discussion are ridiculous. OK, so now you're pretending you can't even understand a simple analogy? Come on, this is just ridiculous. Israel with an Arab majority will no longer be Israel... Really now? I'd like to hear your reasoning for that, since France continues to be France without a king. So if the Arabs threaten Israel's existence simply by existing, does that mean you support the extermination of all Arabs in Israel's borders? If they're harmless as long as they aren't a majority, what makes Israel suddenly turn into Notisrael as soon as one more Arab is born? Or does it stay Israel until he grows up on the off chance he dies young? ...and you know it but that is what you want. Well you believe Jews are the Master Race©®™etc and want to exterminate everyone else on the planet and make a big pile of the foreskins of the men you murdered. See, you're not the only one who can make ridiculous statements about what other people believe. |
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