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Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 13:05:59 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 19:18:32 2014.

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See there you go again with the "but other countries do it too!" Genug! I'm sick of hearing it!

I'm sick of you blaming Israel for singlehandedly creating the Palestinians' plight while making no mention of the refugees in camps in countries such as Syria and Jordan who deny those refugees the right to become citizens, get jobs, and otherwise integrate into the countries they find themselves, especially when the Palestinians have more in common with the residents of those other countries than with Israel. And that's just for starters...

Which confirms my previous point that they are irrelevant to the current political calculations.

They are most definitely not irrelevant, I guess you don't read or care what the Jordanians and Egyptians on the street feel about Israel.

What, you need a list of all of the "targeted killings" that Israel has done without oversight? Mosques hit by Israeli missiles?

Israel targets terrorists, not civilians. Hamas targets civilians and uses them as shields, such that mosques are occasionally hit. Israel regrets doing so, but Hamas doesn't follow the rules of war. Perhaps you should call them out for it.

Even if they did begin serious peace negotiations, it wouldn't change their state of limbo except to the extent that Israel might offer them greater independence.

Actually, Israel and the Palestinians might reach a peace agreement if they started serious negotiations, oddly enough. Did you ever consider that possibility?

Now, I can understand if you're trying to say Palestine is not a country because Israel exerts control over it on a scale comparable to its "nominal leaders" since that's sort of what I've been commenting on.

Actually, Israel exerts little to no control in various parts of the West Bank, per the Oslo Accords, and in Gaza where they have fully disengaged. However, when this is pointed out to you, you insist otherwise.


"Terror state?" Seriously?

Seriously, a terror state. Is Gaza under Hamas not already one?

Ah, so according to you, I'm both an "anti-Israel protestor" who is suing a French company and a completely hypothetical person you just made up who, if he existed, would complain about denying transportation access.

I never said you were such a person. My point is people like you who who insist Israel can't have it both ways are the ones setting the ridiculous double standards that Israel can't possibly overcome because no matter what decision it makes, it makes the wrong one in your eyes.

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