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PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 08:26:51 2008

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Hope You Enjoy

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Inside an orion 6

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Hope you enjoy the Pictures

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Danny



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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 7 09:54:02 2008, in response to PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 08:26:51 2008.

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nice

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Busrider on Wed May 7 11:11:33 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 7 09:54:02 2008.

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What was the fleet numberon that Nova AND Nice pics!

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 20:56:48 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 7 09:54:02 2008.

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Thanks

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 20:57:25 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Busrider on Wed May 7 11:11:33 2008.

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Thanks

you mean the route number?

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Wed May 7 22:24:49 2008, in response to PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 08:26:51 2008.

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Great pics!!

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by GMCFishbowlsRule!!! on Thu May 8 03:25:57 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 20:57:25 2008.

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Great pics! I'm wondering what year the Orion VIs are because I noticed the older roll destination signs. Also what engines do they have?

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu May 8 06:31:19 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by GMCFishbowlsRule!!! on Thu May 8 03:25:57 2008.

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2000: 1997 with Detroit Diesel 50
2001-2020: 1996 with Detroit Diesel 50
2021-2102: 1998 with Cummins L10

Some of the 1996 order originally had LED signs, but reliability problems (and concerns from the visually impaired) led them to go back to rollsigns.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by GMCFishbowlsRule!!! on Thu May 8 06:39:50 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu May 8 06:31:19 2008.

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Thanks for the note. I am wondering if Albany still has any 2 stroke powered buses anymore? A good friend of mine who lives near Albany was telling me about such buses not too long ago and he's a big 2 stroke engine fan.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu May 8 11:27:09 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by GMCFishbowlsRule!!! on Thu May 8 06:39:50 2008.

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The last 2-stroke buses CDTA had were the Orion I's that were retired 4 years ago this month. However, some two-strokes (namely some early-90's 96A3's and one RTS) survive in the buses Yankee Trails uses on the parking shuttles for state workers.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by r17-6599 on Thu May 8 12:08:31 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu May 8 06:31:19 2008.

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Aren't there some Novas in the 3000 series too? They almost run into the Nabi order.
jrc

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 8 12:24:27 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by r17-6599 on Thu May 8 12:08:31 2008.

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The Novas are 3000-3011, 3021-3030, IINM...and then 9901-9959 (I believe, I may be off by a few numbers). The 9900s and 3000s are not the same order.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu May 8 12:42:00 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 8 12:24:27 2008.

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Right you would be. The division of the orders are like this for the initiated:

9901-9950: 1999, transit seats, square windows.
9951-9959: 1999, soft seats with luggage racks/reading lights, square windows.
3001-3011: 2000, similar to 9951-59, but with rounded windows.
3021-3030: 2000, transit seats, rounded windows.

The 3000's were the first buses to have the LED interior sign and automated announcements which were later retrofitted onto the earlier buses (even some near-retirement Orion I's) in early 2004. The NFTA's order of LFS's were piggybacked onto 3021-30, but the seats and window setup are different.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by BusRider on Thu May 8 16:11:43 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu May 8 12:42:00 2008.

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To correct that 1999 Novas it only goes up to 9944 then 9951.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by TruckerJohnT on Thu May 8 18:15:12 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu May 8 12:42:00 2008.

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The 3000 series Nova's were delivered at 0001 to 0011 and 0021-0030. After their Computer Fueling system refused to allow them to fuel the buses, the confusion committee met to work out a plan to correct this. After several sleepless nights, they decided to renumber the buses into the 3000 series. Low and behold, they decided only to scrape off the 0 and replace it with a 3, and you guessed it, the 3 was a different color and size. The roof numbers were completely the wrong color and shorter in size, but hey, they saved $10 per bus this way! LOL.
Bus 2000 was tested with Twin Vision Signs a few years ago, but, the confusion committee decided that blind patrons have a hard time seeing the signs so back to curtin signs! LOL.
The confusion Committee meets on a regular basis just to screw things up.
Take for example the #5 Bus.
At one time there was 3 #5 routes. There was the #5 Albany-Schenectady, the #5 Northern Blvd. and the #5 Troy-5th Ave.. So if a passenger needed to get information on how to get somewhere, they were simply told to take the #5 Bus. LOL

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu May 8 23:41:06 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Wed May 7 22:24:49 2008.

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Thanks

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu May 8 23:41:58 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by GMCFishbowlsRule!!! on Thu May 8 03:25:57 2008.

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Thanks

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri May 9 04:17:15 2008, in response to PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 08:26:51 2008.

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They still have roll signs huh, RollSign Danny?

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat May 10 18:13:34 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri May 9 04:17:15 2008.

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Yes I guss they Still use the old roll sign

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by BusRider on Sat May 10 19:15:46 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat May 10 18:13:34 2008.

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Only on the Orion VI's.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by TruckerJohnT on Sat May 10 21:49:52 2008, in response to PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 08:26:51 2008.

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The new Gilligs have arrived. All Hybrids, some 30 foot some 40 foot. 30 footers I saw was 3109H and 3110H and saw 4016H, 4017H. I guess the 30footers will be going to Saratoga. We'll see!

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat May 10 21:59:46 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by BusRider on Sat May 10 19:15:46 2008.

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Why do the Orion VIs in Albany Still got the old role signs?

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by caine515 on Sat May 10 22:11:28 2008, in response to PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 08:26:51 2008.

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It's amazing that the Orion VI can operate well for CDTA but New York City doesn't run them..ah well.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by BusRider on Sat May 10 22:29:33 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by TruckerJohnT on Sat May 10 21:49:52 2008.

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How many is there total?

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Scrabbleship on Sat May 10 23:25:43 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by caine515 on Sat May 10 22:11:28 2008.

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Trust me, they don't operate as well as you might think. Mechanically sound, yes, but in terms of carrying capacity and how the hold up in rainstorms, no.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 10 23:41:06 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by caine515 on Sat May 10 22:11:28 2008.

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Operating conditions are much different in NYC!

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Re: PHOTOS:prevost

Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sun May 11 09:35:37 2008, in response to PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed May 7 08:26:51 2008.

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Enjoy

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 11 09:50:09 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by GMCFishbowlsRule!!! on Thu May 8 03:25:57 2008.

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Nice pictures. I remeber my days in Watervliet & Green Island. That was 45 years ago I was there.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Scrabbleship on Sun May 11 10:11:40 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat May 10 21:59:46 2008.

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Because they're first in line for retirement and it'd be a bit pointless to give them LED signs when the LFSs/NABIs are going to last longer.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sun May 11 10:52:47 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Scrabbleship on Sun May 11 10:11:40 2008.

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When did the orion VI came out

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by Scrabbleship on Sun May 11 11:04:44 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sun May 11 10:52:47 2008.

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1996 (2001-2020), 1997 (2000), and 1998 (2021-2102). 2000 and 2101-2102 were bonus buses for lateness.

The LFSs and NABIs aren't that much older (1999-2000), but the more standard layout of those models and the fact both models are still in production makes their futures more secure.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by TruckerJohnT on Sun May 11 14:52:50 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by Scrabbleship on Sun May 11 11:04:44 2008.

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2000 is a 1995. It was the first VI delivered as their test vehicle.

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Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses

Posted by merrick1 on Sun May 11 17:42:15 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: CDTA Albany New York Buses, posted by caine515 on Sat May 10 22:11:28 2008.

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The CDTA's Orion VI's are not hybrids. Didn't most of the problems with the NYCB Orions have to do with the hybrid drive?

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