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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 21:25:42 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by R30A on Thu Apr 17 19:56:42 2008. mhm. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Apr 17 21:35:20 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 04:26:54 2008. listen most of all rail and bus fans like the old buses not these boxed shaped golf cart buses.Agreed the fishbowls and MCI classics look much better than the new stuff..... |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Apr 17 21:56:17 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Thu Apr 17 04:26:54 2008. You might as well move out of New York City cuz there is more Hybrids coming this way FOREVER until they switch to some thing else... Hydrogen power, Solar power, CNG electric hybrid, etc.... |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 22:42:07 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Apr 17 21:56:17 2008. I think certain people ought to get a new hobby. Why? Because they claim they like trains and buses yet they're not happy with the equipment that is operated. The equipment is what it's all about for a hobbyist. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Apr 17 22:58:10 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Apr 17 21:56:17 2008. Thank you Al Gore |
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Posted by phxtusbusfan on Thu Apr 17 23:00:44 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 22:42:07 2008. It's all about resistance to change. I'm sure that when the RTSs came out people had similar reactions to them that they are having now to the Orion VIIs (buses) and R160s (trains). |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Apr 17 23:15:44 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by phxtusbusfan on Thu Apr 17 23:00:44 2008. That has nothing to do with it. People didn't resist the Orion V. Most non-foamers love the R160's. People simply hate a low floor bus that makes incessant noises, wastes space, makes you feel crammed, and creates a safety hazard by forcing you to walk up the stairs to reach the back seating. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Apr 17 23:25:42 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Apr 17 21:56:17 2008. At $2 million per bus, you won't see hydrogen right now in NYC unless the unit falls off the Van Hool A300 and lands on an Orion VII. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 23:27:54 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Apr 17 23:15:44 2008. If forcing you to walk up the rear stairs is a safety hazard, then it's a safety hazard to board a high-floor bus (and more so, because there are more steps.)Most non-foamers like the hybrids. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 23:29:01 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 23:27:54 2008. Most non-foamers like the hybrids.Nope, only old people. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 23:33:15 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 23:29:01 2008. proff? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 23:33:21 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by phxtusbusfan on Thu Apr 17 23:00:44 2008. No it's not resistance to change, the new Citaro artic and the R160s are awesome (although the R106s would be more awesome if they had a clear RFW and Adtranz propulsion), it's just that the Hyshits simply suck. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Apr 18 00:20:41 2008, in response to MTA BUS Takeover, posted by hound on Sun Apr 13 20:11:34 2008. I'm a big fan of the GM New Looks GMC RTS TMC RTS MCI Classics Orion Vs and Flexible Metro Bs...mostly the older equipment as you can see.I do like the Orion VII CNGs but I hate the Orion VII HEVs. I like the sound effects on the CNGs. The HEVs just sound like spaceships and are rather dull. I look at it like this: If that's what the MTA wants to get, then I have no choice but to accept it as is. I do photograph them. They are unique in their own way. I just do not like riding on them. |
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Posted by The Rail King on Fri Apr 18 03:26:25 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 23:33:15 2008. Well I had a Hyshits (good one whoever created that) space shuttle yesterday and a transit worker simply loved it because it was easier for her to get on and off. I don't care for them simply becasue their too low to ground and the lower passenger area is a danger zone if the bus was ever "T-Boned" by another vehicle. Caved in side panels shattered glass and the like. I seen many accidents where folks simply don't use stop signs and plow right into traffic. I pray they don't hit one of those buses. U know all of this about the hybrid bus has nothing to do with the topic that it is under. Could I be wrong? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 18 04:49:06 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 21:25:26 2008. He's a little kid...what do you expect?But IF he isn't..then he needs to check himself... |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Fri Apr 18 11:48:05 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by prpapi718 on Mon Apr 14 06:08:16 2008. Will you please STOP screaming?Thanks. |
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Posted by The Rail King on Fri Apr 18 13:02:25 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bingham C50 on Fri Apr 18 11:48:05 2008. My ears are burning! I can't take it anymore! |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Fri Apr 18 23:19:25 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Rail King on Fri Apr 18 03:26:25 2008. I worry about that too, esp if a truck or SUV impacts the side of a low floor bus.Makes me glad Long island, for now, remains 100% high floor. |
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Posted by 3440 on Sat Apr 19 01:05:47 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Rail King on Fri Apr 18 03:26:25 2008. It's too bad transit agency doesn't think about the safety parts on these low floor buses...oh well.BJC |
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Posted by The Rail King on Sat Apr 19 04:45:29 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by R40SlantontheB on Fri Apr 18 23:19:25 2008. I don't know about that I just heard from my brother who works for one of the Suffolk Transit facilities and they're talking Hybrids to save on fuel. |
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Posted by David on Sat Apr 19 07:42:23 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Rail King on Sat Apr 19 04:45:29 2008. Again:"Hybrid" refers to the propulsion system, not the bus body. One can have a high-floor hybrid bus, just as one can have a low-floor diesel (or CNG or LNG or gasoline or electric trolley) bus. David |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 19 07:44:54 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Apr 17 22:58:10 2008. If Al didn't invent the internet, you wouldn't have a place to foam. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Apr 19 10:07:12 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 19 07:44:54 2008. lol |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 20:10:05 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 16 11:27:48 2008. Exactly. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 20:10:39 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 21:25:42 2008. mhm? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 20:11:24 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 17 16:52:06 2008. Yet what do you think about the O7 CNG? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 20:13:30 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Apr 16 11:44:55 2008. Lol, it would've been funny if JG's O7 CNG were sent to LI instead and then NYC getting the NG O7's. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Apr 19 22:56:27 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 20:11:24 2008. I rode them for years on the B63 before I switched over to the shittier (G) train, but I kind of like them not that I don't ride them daily anymore, but they are too jerky and sometimes gave me back pains because you feel every little bump on the road. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 23:09:55 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Apr 19 22:56:27 2008. Interesting, you like the CNG version of the O7, yet hate the hybrids. IMO the hybrid is a slightly smoother ride. The only CNG lf I'd prefer to ride on is the C40LF. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 23:10:37 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 18 04:49:06 2008. yup. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 23:12:49 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Rail King on Fri Apr 18 03:26:25 2008. Wasn't a lf bus struck in the side recently? And did they say the damage was sort of minimal? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 23:15:42 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Rail King on Fri Apr 18 13:02:25 2008. lol, just my eyes hurt. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Apr 19 23:18:03 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 23:09:55 2008. Rider wise, I hate both, however as a busfan I kinda like the way the original hybrids and CNGs sound. |
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Posted by The Rail King on Sun Apr 20 02:27:14 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 23:15:42 2008. I can't see anything! |
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Posted by 3440 on Sun Apr 20 15:54:21 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 20:13:30 2008. that will be terrible.BJC |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 21 13:06:50 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 19 23:12:49 2008. That was a JG Orion VII got t-boned by a locomotive in Brooklyn, that bus has since repaired. |
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Posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Apr 21 13:52:04 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 21 13:06:50 2008. That would be #7601, here are some pics of it on the B8 taken this past Thursday. 
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 22 19:51:18 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 21 13:06:50 2008. thanks. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Mon May 5 23:12:33 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Rail King on Sat Apr 19 04:45:29 2008. yea suffolk's going to be buying hybrids four this year and 61 bye next year, or thats what i heard. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon May 5 23:21:56 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Mac5689 on Mon May 5 23:12:33 2008. What buses are they going to replace? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 6 10:51:50 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 23:27:54 2008. The Orion 7 doesn't make much sense..If folks didn't want to walk up the "front steps" of the older models to GET ON THE BUS...what would make you think THEY WOULD WANT TO USE STEPS INSIDE a bus? The NOVA LFS has a very nice ramp in the rear that rises the further back you go...That is a well "designed TRUE LOW FLOOR BUS"... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 6 12:29:32 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Apr 17 23:27:54 2008. No, you don't climb the front stairs while the bus is in motion. The rear stairs you can and may. That's the issue. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 6 12:30:46 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Edwards! on Tue May 6 10:51:50 2008. Last time I checked, there were and are plenty of people willing to "walk up the "front steps" of the older models to GET ON THE BUS." A subset of these people are also willing to climb the stairs in the back of the bus. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 6 13:06:16 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Apr 17 23:15:44 2008. All buses that are not trolleybuses make "incessant noise". It's called the engine. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue May 6 21:54:45 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 6 12:29:32 2008. Nope/ |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 6 22:41:08 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue May 6 21:54:45 2008. No, you don't climb the front stairs while the bus is in motion. The rear stairs you can and may. That's the issue. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 7 05:10:41 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 6 22:41:08 2008. Is that the best you can do, Polly? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 7 07:26:50 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 7 05:10:41 2008. Is that the best you can do, Polly? |
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It's Official Re: MTA BUS Takeover (Merger)) |
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Posted by 67th Avenue on Wed May 7 13:31:38 2008, in response to Re: MTA BUS Takeover, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 7 07:26:50 2008. It's indeed official. LI Bus, MTA Bus and NYCTA Bus will merge into a new organization by June 1,2008 with Joseph Smith as head. Outgoing LI Bus President Neil Yellin has accepted a position with LIRR. The circle that began with Metropolitan Suburban Bus Authority in 1973 will be closed with this merger. I'm not sure if or when both MABSTOA and LI Bus will lose their identies after the merger. |
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Posted by busway flyer on Wed May 7 13:38:19 2008, in response to It's Official Re: MTA BUS Takeover (Merger)), posted by 67th Avenue on Wed May 7 13:31:38 2008. Is there a link to the of this information? Please post if so.Charlie - BFTA |
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