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New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Élément Dramatique on Thu Apr 19 11:02:32 2007

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 11:12:37 2007, in response to New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Élément Dramatique on Thu Apr 19 11:02:32 2007.

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http://www.raisethehammer.org/blog.asp?id=428

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Thu Apr 19 16:52:07 2007, in response to New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Élément Dramatique on Thu Apr 19 11:02:32 2007.

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Interesting.

But here's the $64 question: can this hybrid artic move like the most recent batch of NYCT D60s?

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 17:19:36 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Thu Apr 19 16:52:07 2007.

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It would probably move even better than the D60HFs. As for the restyled artic, this comes as absolutely no surprise to me, as this is the replacement for the articulated Classics.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 17:35:50 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 17:19:36 2007.

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As for the restyled artic, this comes as absolutely no surprise to me, as this is the replacement for the articulated Classics.

huh

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 17:44:58 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 17:35:50 2007.

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This was mentioned a while back on the HSR (Hamilton, ON) site, where there was an artist's rendering of what this would look like...and that these would replace the 25-year old GMDD Classic/New Look artics.

This was also mentioned on the Canadian version of forums like this (link is to the specific thread and other related ones).

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 17:55:23 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 17:44:58 2007.

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so what's not a surprise?

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 17:58:29 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 17:55:23 2007.

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That these DE60LFRs were coming in now.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 18:22:27 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 17:58:29 2007.

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Ah, so it has nothing to do with the fact that they are restyled. That's where you lost me.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 18:23:48 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 18:22:27 2007.

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The restyling didn't surprise me either though.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 18:34:48 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 18:23:48 2007.

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Why's that?

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Apr 19 19:37:59 2007, in response to New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Élément Dramatique on Thu Apr 19 11:02:32 2007.

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Given how Ontario is in the processing of ADA-style requirements for buses, why they didn't put the ramp at the front door (and put in a complicated manual ramp) is interesting and puzzling.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Thu Apr 19 20:07:25 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Apr 19 19:37:59 2007.

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HSR's DE60LFRs have a ramp at thr front too. Like all of HSR's other LF buses, it has two ramps. The rear ramp is electronic as well, tho perhaps it can be manually deployed.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Eric B on Thu Apr 19 22:01:57 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 17:19:36 2007.

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So does anyone think the MTA might look into these? Or do you think they would not be good with our streets, as people keep saying?
Don't they want to expand articulated service, and are only faced with finding a new model?

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 22:46:40 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 18:34:48 2007.

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I had heard about it from last year---almost as soon as I made it back from Toronto.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 19 22:51:14 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 22:46:40 2007.

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That they would be the restyled ones?

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 22:56:16 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 22:46:40 2007.

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Yes...and I'm still kicking myself since I missed a chance to shoot the articulated Classics on the 51 McMaster line.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Thu Apr 19 23:22:00 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Apr 19 22:56:16 2007.

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I think you mean the GM Artics as HSR didn't have Classic artics.
Also found an interesting photo of the buses in this topic:


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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Apr 20 12:59:59 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Eric B on Thu Apr 19 22:01:57 2007.

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The D60LF failed the road test. If anything, they proabably can't find a high floor with a 30/30 spilt.


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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by q55viamyrtle on Fri Apr 20 13:27:41 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Apr 20 12:59:59 2007.

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What's a 30/30 split?
thanks

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Future Motorman on Fri Apr 20 14:24:44 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Apr 20 12:59:59 2007.

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But those low floor Orions passed. Go figure.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by WillD on Fri Apr 20 15:22:44 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Apr 19 19:37:59 2007.

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It's perfectly within the ADA's requirements for a wheelchair ramp to be at the center or rear door so long as it allows access to one or more wheelchair tiedown locations. Admittedly it's slightly less convenient for the driver to have to walk back 25 or even nearly 50 feet to secure a wheelchair, but it's perfectly allowable.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by WillD on Fri Apr 20 15:32:13 2007, in response to New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Élément Dramatique on Thu Apr 19 11:02:32 2007.

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IMHO the E60LF looks better: http://trans-vancouver.fotopic.net/c1202337.html

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Eric B on Fri Apr 20 22:26:08 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Apr 20 12:59:59 2007.

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But since they've restyled it, then counldn't they give it another chance, as the issue might be resolved?

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Apr 21 04:22:17 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Eric B on Fri Apr 20 22:26:08 2007.

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"But since they've restyled it, then couldn't they give it another chance, as the issue might be resolved?"

I personally see no reason why not. New Flyer deserves another chance in New York, and this new articulated unit along with their other exciting new models and designs could and should earn them just that.

Besides, if the MTA wants their BRT proposal to be taken seriously, they can't continue to turn their noses up at well-built and stylishly-designed low-floor articulated buses.


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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by general682002 on Sat Apr 21 21:51:32 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by R22 Shoal Point on Thu Apr 19 20:07:25 2007.

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HSR always using rear ramp door because of easier access for wheelchair.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Apr 21 23:41:44 2007, in response to New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by Élément Dramatique on Thu Apr 19 11:02:32 2007.

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Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR)

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Apr 22 00:01:24 2007, in response to Re: New Flyer Unviels First Restyled Hybrid Articulated (Dubbed DE60LFR), posted by WillD on Fri Apr 20 15:32:13 2007.

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That can be attributed partially to a vastly superior paint scheme.

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