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The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Feb 19 12:58:23 2017

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 13:41:10 2017, in response to The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Feb 19 12:58:23 2017.

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They look just like the buses they are replacing, though different back end vent arrangement. Suburban Transit has a lot too.

They are much quieter, and their engines don't make a loud gutteral
sound down-shifting as they slow to a stop.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 19 20:47:36 2017, in response to The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Feb 19 12:58:23 2017.

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Beautiful. Glad to see *someone* is keeping a good design / product line going! The D series is the best looking coach-type bus still made!

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 20:53:26 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 19 20:47:36 2017.

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These buses have vinyl seats like the MLV cars not fabric. Not quite as comfortable, but must be easier to clean.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by pragmatist on Sun Feb 19 20:59:12 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 19 20:47:36 2017.

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I like it both in the public sector and regular versions...

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 21:04:57 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by pragmatist on Sun Feb 19 20:59:12 2017.

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I also prefer the corrugated aluminum siding. More sturdy.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 20 07:46:16 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 21:04:57 2017.

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I also prefer the corrugated aluminum siding. More sturdy.
I made the drawings for semi-trailers and did some design, and mentioned to one of the engineers that I liked the corrugated side sheets we offered on some of our units, they looked strong. He told me in away they are, but the corrugations should be running vertically to act like side posts to really offer strength. That always stuck in my mind.


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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 20 09:43:53 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 20 07:46:16 2017.

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The paintable surfaces most buses now have get chipped, cracked, and dented very easily.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Feb 20 10:26:30 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 19 21:04:57 2017.

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I thought it was stainless steel. But I am in your camp and do like it.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 20 10:48:21 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 20 09:43:53 2017.

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I agree, so the siding on the older buses was better.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 20 11:41:46 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 20 10:48:21 2017.

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Notice NJT and MTA go for corrugated aluminum ( or is it stainless ?) sides.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Feb 20 12:05:28 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 20 11:41:46 2017.

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It is listed as stainless in the options section of the MCI brochure,
but of course an agency could have spec'd a different material especially in the quantities they buy.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 20 12:12:28 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by pragmatist on Mon Feb 20 12:05:28 2017.

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Thank you.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by RailBus63 on Tue Feb 21 16:28:30 2017, in response to The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Feb 19 12:58:23 2017.

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Nice shots. Do these routes always operate on the street to/from the terminal instead of the ramps, or was this an unusual occurrence?

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by JohnnyMints on Wed Feb 22 00:29:31 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by RailBus63 on Tue Feb 21 16:28:30 2017.

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DeCamp does since they moved to the basement about a year and a half ago. The others, it depends on if they are diverted out of the tunnel or are accessing the Port from a remote lot.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Feb 22 00:53:37 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by RailBus63 on Tue Feb 21 16:28:30 2017.

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I don't know. All I know is that DeCamp uses the 40th Street entrance between 9th and 10th frequently, and the Jitneys uses this entrance as well, along with Peter Pan and Martz.

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The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Mar 1 01:01:43 2017, in response to The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Feb 19 12:58:23 2017.

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Spotted these in downtown yesterday:

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by Q23 on Wed Mar 1 07:51:54 2017, in response to The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Mar 1 01:01:43 2017.

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Nice stuff.

I have a question though. These cannot be used on the X23 and X24, right?


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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Mar 1 08:31:43 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by Q23 on Wed Mar 1 07:51:54 2017.

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Hypothetically they can, but no in reality.

They would get a pretty hefty fine. The terminal that operates the X23 and 24 (Perth Amboy) is fairly strict on what equipment goes on what route for that reason.



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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 1 10:42:19 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by Q23 on Wed Mar 1 07:51:54 2017.

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Why not ?

The privates seem to be getting theirs first.

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by kcram3500 on Wed Mar 1 12:26:45 2017, in response to The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by GojiMet86 on Wed Mar 1 01:01:43 2017.

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So it would appear private carriers were allowed to select the paintable aluminum lower bodysides on their MCIs instead of NJT's preferred stainless steel. Maybe Coach USA and DeCamp opted for the stainless to visually separate the state buses from their own, but I'd follow Academy's lead - if I can have a more appearance-uniform fleet, that's better for my company's image.

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 1 12:35:48 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Mar 1 12:26:45 2017.

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Notice they have Jersey plates, not Illinois.
Waiting to see what Trans-Bridge gets. They have 7 NJT buses.

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Mar 1 14:05:36 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 1 12:35:48 2017.

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Different operating company - Academy Lines, LLC.

The IL plates belong to Academy Express and Academy Bus, LLC (the Florida company)

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by JAzumah on Wed Mar 1 23:26:21 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Mar 1 08:31:43 2017.

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Something about a farebox...

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Mar 1 23:48:47 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by JAzumah on Wed Mar 1 23:26:21 2017.

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They've sent buses without them in a pinch. It's happened already...

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by JAzumah on Thu Mar 2 00:21:36 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Mar 1 23:48:47 2017.

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Yes, but they get nailed pretty hard for that because of the revenue collection issue. That is, when someone is out watching...

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by GojiMet86 on Thu Mar 2 07:52:26 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by JAzumah on Wed Mar 1 23:26:21 2017.

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These ones should have fareboxes, no?

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by GojiMet86 on Sat Mar 4 12:45:28 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Mar 1 08:31:43 2017.

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Someone posted a photo in the Bus Lounge Facebook group of #17146 with the X23 Drumgoole sign, so it seems it has been thought of.

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Mar 4 14:45:49 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by GojiMet86 on Sat Mar 4 12:45:28 2017.

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The buses were programmed with all of the Academy signs.

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by mtatransit on Sat Mar 4 22:14:11 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Mar 4 14:45:49 2017.

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Suburban Transit got their new buses too, I recently rode one of them. As for Academy it used to say EPRESS, finally they changed it to Express

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 5 07:10:10 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by mtatransit on Sat Mar 4 22:14:11 2017.

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Why do the privates get them before NJT ?
Where are the displaced buses going ?

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by kcram3500 on Sun Mar 5 13:20:25 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 5 07:10:10 2017.

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NJT just got almost 200 new coaches (CNG and hybrid). The privates were also in the first batch last time - DeCamp and Coach USA got their 8400s the same time NJT was getting their 7500s - so their buses were just as old.

As for the replaced buses, they will likely be stored and prepped for auction or a mass sale like last time (ABC handled the sale of the Eagle 20s and MCI MC-9s).

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Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT

Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 5 15:31:56 2017, in response to Re: The new NJT Academy Express D4500CT, posted by kcram3500 on Sun Mar 5 13:20:25 2017.

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I suppose the churches were trade up their MC-9's.

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Re: The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Mar 5 19:12:26 2017, in response to The new NJT Coach USA and Lakeland D4500CT, posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Feb 19 12:58:23 2017.

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nice catches


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