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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 17 15:26:52 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 12:08:58 2016. No it is not clearly established. Why do you think Board approval would have been required? If you don't need Board approval, the lead time would have only been 7 to 10 days to post notices in the buses. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 17:41:21 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by R30A on Mon Oct 17 14:36:53 2016. I counted 22 stops from the underground portions of the Red and Blue lines (I could be one station off). That tells you that the CTA has only 9 underground stations in Chicago is 100 percent false. |
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Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Oct 17 17:49:04 2016, in response to Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 13 10:09:07 2016. What law states that you are allowed to briefly enter an active bus lane to get around obstructions?New York City Traffic Regulation Section 412(m) Not sure about exceptions for double yellow lines. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 17 18:30:31 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 17:41:21 2016. LOL! That's classic. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Oct 17 18:40:27 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 17:41:21 2016. I think 22 counts as somewhere around 20 :) |
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Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 17 18:44:23 2016, in response to Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Oct 17 17:49:04 2016. Thanks. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 18:57:26 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by R30A on Mon Oct 17 18:40:27 2016. Yup, agreed. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by bigbusdriver on Tue Oct 18 18:56:20 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 18:57:26 2016. No. 21 would have been much better. 22 is just..... so 22-ish. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 20 16:56:44 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 01:13:46 2016. No Terrapin is Trump because of all the times he says "wrong". |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Oct 20 21:50:10 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 20 16:56:44 2016. Unlike trump, those things ARE wrong when he said them in response to you. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Oct 20 21:50:10 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 20 16:56:44 2016. Unlike trump, those things ARE wrong when he said them in response to you. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 21 12:37:39 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Thu Oct 20 21:50:10 2016. Untrue. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 21 12:37:59 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Thu Oct 20 21:50:10 2016. Untrue. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 21 13:31:30 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 21 12:37:39 2016. No, R30A is correct. It is true. Unlike trump, those things ARE wrong when I say them in response to you. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 21 13:31:42 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 21 12:37:59 2016. No, R30A is correct. It is true. Unlike trump, those things ARE wrong when I say them in response to you. |
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Re: What is this? An election |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 21 14:40:45 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 01:45:01 2016. Oh...wow. |
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Re: What is this? An election |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 21 17:00:23 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 01:45:01 2016. Thanks. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Oct 22 09:52:58 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 21 13:31:30 2016. And it isn't WRONG that you cannot increase capacity without increasing service? |
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Re: What is this? An election |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Oct 22 18:20:18 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 01:45:01 2016. Well, hes pretty much made it clear to everyone how much of an ASSHOLE he is to be certain. Why not give him accolades forThat? It Certainly would be based on fact. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sat Oct 22 23:12:51 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Oct 22 09:52:58 2016. In the context of that thread, no, I was not wrong. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 23 11:46:48 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by TerrApin Station on Sat Oct 22 23:12:51 2016. You were proven absolutely wrong but you won't admit lt. You just didn't think of longer buses as a way to increase capacity. But you just always have to be right. LOL. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 11:57:30 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 23 11:46:48 2016. You were proven absolutely wrong but you won't admit lt.No I wasn't. I fully admit that I was correct. You just didn't think of longer buses as a way to increase capacity.We weren't talking about changing equipment! That's a whole different issue. We were talking about all things being equal. But you just always have to be right. LOL.Wrong! Damn liar! I don't always have to be right! LOL!! |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Oct 23 19:40:26 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 23 11:46:48 2016. Using longer buses is a service increase. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 23 21:41:40 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 11:57:30 2016. We didn't have to be talking about changing equipment. You made the statement that capacity is a function of service and that is incorrect because increasing service is not the only way to increase capacity. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 23 21:44:09 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Sun Oct 23 19:40:26 2016. Using longer buses provides additional capacity if service is not reduced. It does not increase service. Usually, it results in decreased service since the MTA policy generally us to replace five 40 foot buses with four 60 foot buses. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Oct 23 21:56:49 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 23 21:44:09 2016. You are confusing the terms "Service" and "Frequency" and have repeatedly, yet inconsistently been doing so since the beginning of this argument. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 24 17:53:45 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 23 21:44:09 2016. What happened when the Q10 got artics ? Was there any net increase in capacity after adjusting the timetables ? |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 24 19:46:22 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Sun Oct 23 21:56:49 2016. I am not confusing anything. Decreased frequency is decreased service. If you lower the frequency, you decrease the service.What nuance are you referring to that would have an impact on this discussion? |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 25 07:18:19 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Sun Oct 23 19:40:26 2016. Not according to the MTA - - it gives them the opportunity to reduce frequency/increase headways - - not significant though. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Oct 25 10:06:07 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 24 19:46:22 2016. Decreased frequency means decreased service, yes (all else being equal).However, decreased service does not necessarily mean decreased frequency, because "service" is a more general term than "frequency." If a line is changed to keep the same headways with smaller vehicles, frequency is unchanged, but service has decreased. IOW, "service" and "frequency" are not synonyms, although they are related. As a non-planner, I'm really enjoying explaining this to a supposed planner. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 25 10:07:42 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 25 07:18:19 2016. The discussion was always ceteris paribus. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Oct 25 10:50:53 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 25 10:07:42 2016. Completely off topic question: Did you have Dr. Fitzgerald? |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 25 11:59:49 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Tue Oct 25 10:50:53 2016. Yes. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 25 13:01:35 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by fdtutf on Tue Oct 25 10:06:07 2016. As you said, service is a general term.More specific would be frequency and span (of service). An increased frequency or span (hours) means service is improved. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Oct 25 13:26:29 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 25 13:01:35 2016. An increase in vehicle capacity is also a service increase, which is the point I was making. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Oct 25 13:34:50 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Tue Oct 25 13:26:29 2016. Exactly. The most reasonable definition of "service" is place-miles offered. That is a function of frequency, span of service, and vehicle capacity. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 25 15:51:23 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 24 19:46:22 2016. It wasn’t quite presented that way when I was in scheduling. When our traffic checkers went out on the road to count passengers, whatever headways were needed to carry the passengers in accordance with loading guidelines were what were operated. Speaking from a rapid transit viewpoint of course, if the length of trains was increased from 8 cars to 10 cars, that would mean that fewer trains would be needed to be operated to carry the same number pf passengers per 20 min period (the standard that was used at the time) and very often, the headways would be adjusted to reflect this. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 19:02:51 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by randyo on Tue Oct 25 15:51:23 2016. I was making the assumption that train length and bus size remain the same when I said when you reduce frequency, you reduce service. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 19:03:50 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Tue Oct 25 13:26:29 2016. It can be given frequency is not reduced. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 19:06:41 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by fdtutf on Tue Oct 25 13:34:50 2016. What is a place-mile? |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 25 19:23:35 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 19:02:51 2016. That would be the case, but I think that somewhere in that thread it was mentioned that artics would be replacing standard buses on some lines, possibly allowing for an increased headway. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Oct 25 22:29:02 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 19:03:50 2016. It certainly can be even if frequency IS reduced, as long as the vehicle capacity increase is substantial enough to offset it. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:07:56 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 19:06:41 2016. Lol |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:08:10 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Tue Oct 25 22:29:02 2016. Owned |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:08:21 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by fdtutf on Tue Oct 25 13:34:50 2016. Pwn3d |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:08:38 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by R30A on Tue Oct 25 13:26:29 2016. Owned. |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:08:48 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 25 13:01:35 2016. Owned. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:09:14 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by fdtutf on Tue Oct 25 10:06:07 2016. Owned so good. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:10:00 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by randyo on Tue Oct 25 15:51:23 2016. Owned owned owned!!!! By Randyo!!! |
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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:10:24 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 24 19:46:22 2016. No, you are VERY confused!!!! |
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