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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:21:00 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:13:27 2016. You stated that I didn't want to discuss why you didn't want to read the report. Correct, because there is no reason to have that discussion.The relevant discussion is to discuss what the report stated. I said you didn't read the report because you made a hundred posts explaining why you didn't read the report and now you have the nerve to ask how I know you didn't read it and now state tgat you did read it? If so, what made you change your mind and what were your specific criticisms of it? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 19:43:44 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:51:33 2016. my comment still stands that no one who is looking for information on other SBS routes would click on that link.No, that comment DOES NOT stand as it is patently false. The heading and subheading are not relevant since they are not links.Incorrect, they are completely relevant since they describe a distinct section of the website. The links on the front page take you quickly to the newest or most important information of the topic of that section. It is quite obvious that if you are at all interested in SBS, you would click on that link to get to the SBS section of the website, even if the exact content described in the link is not exactly what you are looking for. That is how the world wide web works and has been working for a while now. Best case scenario is that you obviously have not been keeping up with the ways of the internet. Worst case scenarios would probably be of the type that you would find insulting so I won't mention that at this time. The heading and subheading are not relevant since they are not links.As I've said, that's false. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 19:45:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 13:16:05 2016. The section on the main page is clearly NOT FOR ALL SELECT BUS SERVICE.Wrong!!! It clearly IS!!!!! SO WHY WOULD ANYONE IN HIS RIGHT MIND CLICK ON A "Brooklyn" link if they looking for a " Queens SBS? They wouldn't.Wrong!!!! Anyone in his right mind would click on that link if they wanted ANYTHING to do with SBS!!!!!!!!!! You clearly FAIL at the internets. And that's not an insult. That's just a fact-based observation. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 19:48:02 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 12:58:41 2016. Doesn't matter, as I explained. It all depends on the context. And in the context, this sign certainly is not " completely wrong" or "confusing" and at best could be completely appropriate. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 19:48:28 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 16 20:36:40 2016. bump |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 19:50:43 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:15:05 2016. See, I know how to understand things and I defend you whenever you are correct, no matter how infrequent that may be. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:13:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 12:58:41 2016. Face it, EXIT ONLY does not mean what you think it means. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:18:37 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:13:41 2016. And here's one on Cross Bay fucking Boulevard. I thought you were an expert on the Q52/53 route. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:19:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:18:37 2016. Better view: |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:21:36 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:55:48 2016. The B44 progress report is completely irrelevant here. The B44 runs entirely on a street that's part of a grid with numerous parallel streets. That is not the case with Woodhaven. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:22:48 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:59:26 2016. I agree with that. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:28:46 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:59:26 2016. A Plan is a layout. The existing conditions are the conditions which occur under the existing plan. Just because you do not understand English does not make it incorrect when somebody makes a correct statement that you do not understand. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:42:11 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:55:48 2016. "Access to service roads will be every quarter mile. Not frequent at all if stuck in traffic that is barely moving."There is no reason to assume that traffic is going to be barely moving. Besides, even if it is barely moving, 1/4 miles is NOT a long distance anyway! "The overwhelming majority of residents believe eliminating two lanes of general traffic without a massive shift to buses causing a reduction of cars on the road WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC." A. No they don't. B. They aren't removing two lanes of general traffic. C. What residents think has little baring on reality. " Not only that, but traffic will also spill over into parallel neighboring streets as was already shown in the B44 Progress Report. " Really? Besides, which part of the B44 does the Q52/Q53 run on? |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:48:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:07:35 2016. "The community does agree."No, they don't. "If you were at the protest, you would have had heard speaker after speaker ask how long will it take the City to clean the medians based on past experience which was three days after the last storm. They stated for example hat the bank cleared the sidewalk days before the city cleared the snow." Single instances are not indicative of trends, Furthermore, bus stops don't come with commercial banks at each one, so such does not really have an effect overall. "So according to you we first have to wait for fatalities before the city realizes median bus stops are dangerous." Since they aren't dangerous, yeah, that would be a prerequisite. Median bus stops are found around the world. There has been no mass extinction of humanity in those cities. "One resident stated that the day before the protest a car hit another and one of them ended up the median." That sort of thing happens on occasion. On sidewalks. Where is the data saying medians have such happen any more than sidewalks do? "If people were waiting there for a bus, they would have been injured or killed." Potentially, just like they would if that happened on a sidewalk. "The residents who see the conditions every day ARE MORE RELIABLE THAN THE SO-CALLED DOT EXPERTS who are only in the neighborhood when they are collecting data. " You identified the key reason why you are entirely wrong. DOT has data because DOT COLLECTS DATA. Residents DO NOT COLLECT DATA, NOR DO THEY CONSISTENTLY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO PROPERLY ANALYZE SAID DATA. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:48:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:14:36 2016. The old policy has no bearing on the present or future. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:49:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:10:18 2016. I read it when I noticed you had posted it. How could you possibly know when exactly I read it?When I respond to something is not necessarily connected to when I read something. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:50:37 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Aug 17 13:58:58 2016. Valid point. So he should know his whole argument is irrelevant... |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:51:35 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:15:59 2016. Nearly every post you make. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 23:21:10 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:48:13 2016. good post!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 23:22:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:07:35 2016. If you were at the protest, you would have had heard speaker after speaker ask how long will it take the City to clean the medians based on past experience which was three days after the last storm. They stated for example hat the bank cleared the sidewalk days before the city cleared the snow.LOL! The protest! A protest is really a hotbed of independent, logical thinking from rational people, right???? All viewpoints were expressed, right? All facts were vetted, right? LOL!!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 23:27:28 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:50:37 2016. Sort of. I dunno. I mean the fare checkers could get off with you and see if you buy a ticket when you're supposed to. It's not like when you ride a commuter train without a ticket and the C/R never gets to you, there's no policy that you're supposed to go to the fare machine at your destination and buy a ticket and then rip it up. And even if you have a ticket, and it doesn't get collected by the commuter train C/R, you're not supposed to rip it up. Those situations make the train ride "effectively free". But on SBS, the new policy is you're supposed to get off at your destination and buy a self-expiring ticket. So you can't call it effectively free. Maybe you could call it "possibly free" or "free if no one's looking". |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 23:55:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:21:00 2016. You stated that I didn't want to discuss why you didn't want to read the report.Huh??? Correct, because there is no reason to have that discussion.Huh??? The relevant discussion is to discuss what the report stated.No it's not. The relevant discussion is any discussion relevant to the post that preceded it. you made a hundred posts explaining why you didn't read the reportI did? now you have the nerve to ask how I know you didn't read it and now state tgat you did read it?Yes, it's a valid question. Just like R30A's valid point that you have no idea when he read your report. If so, what made you change your mind and what were your specific criticisms of it?LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Aug 18 00:21:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:19:31 2016. hot. fucking. damn.you are the MAN! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Aug 18 00:22:21 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:13:41 2016. fabulous. this is going into the bookmarks hall of fame. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Thu Aug 18 07:52:23 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Cornell Park on Wed Aug 17 16:59:32 2016. UPDATED POST- I hate when I don't proof read after corrections.I know I have. If I am not mistaken, it IS ALSO on Route 30 in Lancaster P.A. Your saying "local street" as if Baltic Ave. is tree lined with single family houses on it, and it is far from that. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Thu Aug 18 08:16:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:18:37 2016. Could it be that he is such an expert he don't need to read signs on Cross Bay Blvd?Its just like he knows there's no traffic on the BQE at midnight Saturday Night/Sunday morning. No need to check traffic conditions, but complains he sat in 45 minutes of traffic and the DOT was wrong for doing road work. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Aug 18 09:15:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Cornell Park on Thu Aug 18 08:16:13 2016. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 19 19:47:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 17 21:13:41 2016. Flatbush Avenue is like a highway there with limited intersections, whereas Baltic has an intersection every 200 feet, so the streets are really not comparable.Those on Flatbush are not as confusing because they are placed so far from the exit, you can't even see it. But someone not familiar to the area could also be confused because there is no indication how far away the Verrazano is, and could be interpreted as the entrance to the bridge. In Washingtn DC, there is a sign to turn left for the 14 Street Bridge and if you do, you find yourself crossing into Virginia. Needs to say 14 Street Bridge Only which it did not say when I was there. In Atlantic City it was about 100 feet from the exit and that's why it was somewhat confusing. But seeing the arrows on the pavement, you could figure out what they meant. If it were covered in snow, it could be interpreted as an exit where you should not enter especially at night with limited light. It would be much ckearer if it said Atlantic City Expressway, Entrance only or just Atlantic City Expressway Only. The word "exit over there is not necessary.. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Aug 19 22:11:30 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 19 19:47:08 2016. "In Atlantic City it was about 100 feet from the exit and that's why it was somewhat confusing. But seeing the arrows on the pavement, you could figure out what they meant.If it were covered in snow, it could be interpreted as an exit where you should not enter especially at night with limited light.'' Wrong. There is a difference between "Regulation Signs" and "Warning Signs". Regulation signs can be red, white and black. Warning signs are yellow and black. "DO NOT ENTER'' and ''WRONG WAY'' signs are regulation signs, they will be red and white. Don't believe me, may I suggest reading chapter 4 of the N.Y.S. drivers manual. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 19 22:19:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 19 19:47:08 2016. Are you fucking serious about the Verrazano Bridge thing?You know that in Baltimore, the signs on I-95 north say NEW YORK CITY. Do you sincerely believe that someone will think that NYC is right there? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 20 09:42:01 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 19 19:47:08 2016. Signs can't do it all. Otherwise they would all have to be mini-maps. They have to assume that the driver has a basic understanding of where they are. They rightly assume that the driver on Flatbush Ave knows he is miles away from the Verrazano.I can't locate the Washington, DC sign but I would suggest that if the location is very very close to the water, it could be somewhat obvious that if you're going in that direction you want Virginia. To me, the most important notification they should give is for tolls. If it's not a toll road it's just like taking any wrong turn. Sometimes highway exits are miles apart, meaning lots of time lost by missing one, but there may just be one small warning of that in advance of an exit, if any. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 08:31:33 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 20 09:42:01 2016. The entire point of signage is to provide information to those who are not from the area and do not have a good idea of where they are. You can't assume the driver knows the general area.If you do know the area, you do not need the signage in the first place. If the sign just said Belt Parkway Verrazno Bridge, the assumption is that the Bridge is a landmark or where the highway ends. The "exit only" could imply the only place you can go is to the bridge like on Adams Street where it says, "Brooklyn Bridge Only". In Wash DC, it simply said "14 St Bridge" with a left arrow. Nothing about making that left turn taking you into Virginia. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 1 08:48:19 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 08:31:33 2016. Whatever point you're making, you're probably wrong. That's just the way it is. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Sep 1 09:25:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 08:31:33 2016. Just because YOU don't understand signage doesn't mean that coherent drivers who do not necessarily know the whole area don't understand the signage. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 1 10:08:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Thu Sep 1 09:25:57 2016. Truth. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Thu Sep 1 10:39:24 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 08:31:33 2016. So if you don't want the 14th St. Bridge, don't make that left turn. What's so hard?If you don't know that the 14th St. Bridge will take you across the Potomac, then you don't want it. Why would you make a turn onto a bridge without knowing where the bridge goes? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 12:22:37 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Thu Sep 1 09:25:57 2016. I understand that on Astoria Blvd South going east that the road splits. The signs say left for the Marine Air Terminal and right for the BQE. Nowhere is there a directional sign for the Grand Central where the majority of drivers are headed for. How is someone to know that he should follow the sign for the Marine Air Terminal to get to the Grand Central. Please explain how most drivers would know that. There are signage deficiencies all over. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 12:27:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Thu Sep 1 10:39:24 2016. Because I was in the left turn lane which became a turn lane without warning and traffic wouldn't let me leave it. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 1 13:31:20 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 12:22:37 2016. I understand that on Astoria Blvd South going east that the road splits. The signs say left for the Marine Air Terminal and right for the BQE. Nowhere is there a directional sign for the Grand Central where the majority of drivers are headed for. How is someone to know that he should follow the sign for the Marine Air Terminal to get to the Grand Central. Please explain how most drivers would know that.LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Astoria Blvd continues straight. The road that diverges to the right is called Brooklyn-Queens Expressway. The default action is to stay on the road you are on until you see a sign for the road you want, and then you diverge. So forget needing a sign for the GCP, if anything, since I can see how the spot could be tricky, there should be a sign that makes clear that Astoria Blvd is the left-hand fork. But as-is, it is safe to assume that if you don't want the BQE, you should go left. Note that on that sign, the left hand side is a destination whereas the right hand side is a road. So again, since the default is to stay on the road you are already on, the fact that the right side mentions another road, but the left side only mentions a destination, should clue you in that the left side is the side for staying on your current path. PLUS, you can see the GCP to your left. The left fork goes left. The right fork goes right. Which fork do you think leads to the GCP? I mean seriously. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 1 13:31:59 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 12:27:27 2016. LOL!!!!! So? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 1 13:32:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Thu Sep 1 10:39:24 2016. pwn3d |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 1 13:32:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 1 08:48:19 2016. bump |
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Posted by fdtutf on Thu Sep 1 19:13:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 1 13:31:59 2016. Seriously. Shit happens; deal with it. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 1 20:30:38 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Thu Sep 1 19:13:07 2016. Exactly. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 1 22:29:58 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 08:31:33 2016. God damn!If you don't know what "EXIT ONLY" means, you probably should not be driving. When you see a STOP sign, do you take it literally and stop there for the rest of your life because it doesn't clearly say "Stop and wait for cross-traffic to clear and then proceed when clear?" Or do you know what a stop sign means because you learned as a prerequisite of driving a car? The fact that you and possibly other drivers (and that remains to be seen) don't understand a clear, unambiguous sign just means that you are ignorant and you need to learn. For the rest of us, the sign conveys all of the information needed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 1 22:35:25 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 1 13:31:20 2016. I don't agree with your last sentence since some interchange structures are complicated and require going right to go left and vice versa. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Thu Sep 1 23:20:52 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 1 22:29:58 2016. Excellent point. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 2 11:09:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 1 08:31:33 2016. I can't think of a single sign leading to the 14th Street Bridge that actually says 14th Street Bridge. Perhaps because that isn't the official name of the bridge, though it is certainly the one that everyone uses. As far as I know, the signs all have I-395 shields on them and clearly say Virginia or Northern Virginia. Maybe one or two say "Richmond" but that should be enough of an indication to the average person as to where you will wind up if you follow that sign. If you can't figure out where arrows underneath those signs will take you, please turn in your car keys. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Sep 2 12:37:14 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 2 11:09:41 2016. I can't think of a single sign leading to the 14th Street Bridge that actually says 14th Street Bridge.I looked around Google Street View from my ivory tower and couldn't find the intersection described. There is a lane trap on D Street at 9th Street with a 395 South sign which might be it, but there is an option to exit to Maine Avenue before ending up on the bridge. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 2 13:12:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 1 22:29:58 2016. Great post. Needed to be said. |
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