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Re: Hey Bus! Whineberg says he doesn't attack |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 14:15:50 2016, in response to Re: Hey Bus! Whineberg says he doesn't attack, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 8 11:43:11 2016. WRONG! Guess again. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 10 15:24:56 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 02:07:54 2016. Maybe...everyone does it.Anyone who sez they arent proves it. But,the fact that you are such a bitch about YOUR UNTRUTHS,it just drives home the asshole issues we see you suffering from. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 15:52:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 10 15:24:56 2016. ...it just drives home the asshole issues we see you suffering from.Do you think there's a cure? |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Jul 10 19:00:13 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:48:50 2016. The truth is that many of their so called planners are not at all qualified.Finally, something we can all agree on! |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 19:05:44 2016, in response to Hey Bus! Whineberg says he doesn't attack, posted by nostalgia on Thu Jul 7 22:36:08 2016. If I may point out something to you, I am posting this on Sunday July 10, 2016 at about 19:05. You said you would ask Bus for a second opinion on Thursday July 7, 2016 at about 22:07. You still don't have that second opinion. You look like the "one man left behind". Ever think your fighting for the wrong reason? |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 19:10:44 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:48:50 2016. "The truth is that many of their so called planners are not at all qualified."How many of the "body's" anywhere are actually qualified? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 19:22:21 2016, in response to Re: Hey Bus! Whineberg says he doesn't attack, posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 19:05:44 2016. Excuse me for not responding earlier. I didn't realize a response was necessary. There is no doubt that Brian is the biggest attacker on this forum. |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 19:38:01 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 19:10:44 2016. There are always done incompetent people everywhere.I replied in the way I did because the statement from Whineberg was I am a poor planner, when the truth is the opposite and he is just jealous. No other planner was responsible for the number of positive bus route changes that I was responsible for. But in the NYCT it is very difficult to accomplish anything. People propose you at every turn. Even as a planner if you have done good ideas, you still have to fight with the budget people who know nothing about planning. When David Gunn started in 1984, I had a private meeting with him and he was complaining to me that there was someone in every department opposing every change he wanted to make and if he knew it would be so difficult, he never would have accepted the job. And that was coming from the President who you would think could do everything he wanted. Imagine how difficult it is for anyone else to push through positive changes. Only those who work or worked there know the real deal. Today it is even worse because the chairman doesn't run the show anymore. It is the governor which is evidenced by how he pushed through his LGA route bypassing the entire planning department to satisfy real estate interests. A multimillion dollar plan that doesn't even reduce travel time from midtown to LGA. An utter disgrace. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 21:02:26 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 19:38:01 2016. My point was they say qualified, in reality no where near.The rest of the pi$$ing contest I don't care about. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 21:07:28 2016, in response to Re: Hey Bus! Whineberg says he doesn't attack, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 19:22:21 2016. I've seen worse attacks by others. So i have to disagree. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 21:22:58 2016, in response to Re: Hey Bus! Whineberg says he doesn't attack, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 19:22:21 2016. No doubt at all! |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 21:24:22 2016, in response to Re: Hey Bus! Whineberg says he doesn't attack, posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 19:05:44 2016. I'm fighting for the RIGHT reason. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:18:38 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 8 13:36:52 2016. He was saying I am an elitist by stating an argument COULD BE made that people's time who have higher incomes could be valued higher. I brought the courts into this BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO. So go and call them elitists also.Yes. He was right. No, we would not call the court elitist. I agree that in transportation planning EACH HUMAN TIME shoukd be valued EQUALLY.That's not what you said. That was why I made my original post because DOT IS VALUING THE TIME OF BUS PASSENGERS GREATER than everyone else's by failing to consider the effects on cars and trucks.Not true. They point to how much time bus riders will save BUT FAIL TO ESTIMATE what the cost us to others.I doubt that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:22:42 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 8 13:51:19 2016. Nope. Just telling the truth. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:23:14 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 8 13:55:26 2016. I highly doubt that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:23:56 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 8 14:00:28 2016. Nope. Link it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:24:24 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 8 14:19:44 2016. +5 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:24:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 8 14:21:40 2016. +10 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:25:14 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 8 14:06:37 2016. Nope, it's the truth. You just can't accept it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:25:37 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 8 14:11:08 2016. exactly |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:25:48 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 8 14:22:54 2016. Agreed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:36:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:32:38 2016. We let others judge who is the liar. You have called people idiots, morons, liars, antisemites etc. You are constantly insulting others.Nope. I only call people idiots, morons, liars, antisemites if they actually are idiots, morons, liars, antisemites. That's not insulting. It's just the truth. I only do it in response to an insult.Nope. You misunderstand. What you think is an insult is not an insult. Or if it really is an insult then it was in response to an insult from YOU. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:37:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 10 15:24:56 2016. You're a racist anti-Semite bastard, so why should we believe anything you say? |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:38:49 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 21:02:26 2016. Great post. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:41:06 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:48:50 2016. Your assumption is that the MTA only hires qualified transportation planners.No it's not. Anyhow, upon reflection, I retract my statement that "the fact that the MTA never offered to hire you implies that you are a terrible transportation planner." That makes no sense. They wouldn't make offers to low level planners unless the person applied for the position first. And you didn't even apply for the position. So what I said does not apply. My apologies. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:41:59 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:50:01 2016. Why? Why can't I give one example of something you've said wrong elsewhere? That's what I'm talking about! Your long history of almost always being wrong! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:43:42 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:52:38 2016. He is the one who constantly changes what I write and accuses me of stating something I never said.Nope. I specifically stated that pedestrian deaths are important and do matter. And he keeps quoting me as saying pedestrian deaths do not matter. That is NLY one example.You stated that after the fact. But your original article and/or comments on the article show otherwise and you have not retracted those original statements. Then when you try to pin him down, he constantly changes his position.No he does not. So you have the entire situation a little backwards.No I do not. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:46:13 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:54:49 2016. ALL HE ADDED WAS AN APOLOGY.EXACTLY! That's what we said and you disagreed!!!! R30A said: "The editors had to apologize for you." You replied: "I WAS THE ONE WHO WROTE THE RETRACTION ON MY OWN WITHOUT ANY ADVICE OR INSTRUCTION FROM THE EDITOR" Now you say: "ALL HE ADDED WAS AN APOLOGY." So we agree!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:46:40 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:55:47 2016. I am not going to repeat myself ten times. Learn to read English.Nope. You misunderstood. AGAIN. You misunderstand a lot. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 23:45:50 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:41:06 2016. WOW. A Goebbels apology. The message should be framed. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 23:47:42 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:36:50 2016. Like you're the buschat police and that justifies calling people idiots, etc. Where's your badge?Your ego is bigger than I imagined. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 23:51:25 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:25:14 2016. Very few people can accept ANYTHING from you as the TRUTH. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 23:52:48 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:22:42 2016. You should be hooked up to a lie detector to see if you tell the truth.Paging Maury Povich. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 11 00:05:04 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 15:52:58 2016. None know to man at this time.Right now,the Only one who can help him,is God himself. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 11 00:11:30 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jul 10 10:48:50 2016. Dont see why you waste your time.Doesnt matter WHAT you say.Even if you bought a BOATLOAD OF EVIDENCE,they STILL would say you were wrong. Fuck it..do what it is You do,and keep it moving. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 08:01:13 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 11 00:11:30 2016. Wrong. We would not disagree with something that was correct. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:07:48 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 11 00:11:30 2016. Thanks. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jul 11 10:09:55 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 11 00:11:30 2016. Even if you bought a BOATLOAD OF EVIDENCE Goebbels would sink the boat. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:15:48 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:41:06 2016. Actually when I was hired, the MTA came to me. And they didn't interview anyone else. They even had me write the job description so it would be so restrictive that no one else could apply. So the post when up after I was already working at the job. That's how much they wanted me.When Gunn can me aboard he stopped tgat from occurring by adding a rule forcing them to interview three people for every job application. That still didn't prevent them from first choosing the person, then holding interviews. They just had to hold up the appointment. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:18:38 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:46:13 2016. His implication was still that the editor caught the error and wrote the corrected article. That did not happen and what I was trying to get everyone to understand. That is quite different than merely apologizing for a mistake that was made. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:22:40 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:43:42 2016. My original comments in all my pedestrian articles say exactly what I said they say, that pedestrians are important and deaths matter. He just interpreted the question of is too much emphasis being placed on pedestrians as pedestrians do not matter. I posed a legitimate question and backed it up in the article. He just didn't like the question because he stated that every single pedestrian death needs to be prevented no matter what the consequences even if you would have to ban all motorized vehicles. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:24:21 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:41:59 2016. You are avoiding the question. What is your specific problem with my B44 critique other than a general statement that it is all wrong. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:27:30 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Cornell Park on Sun Jul 10 21:02:26 2016. What are you saying that I am not qualified, or that MTA planners are nowhere near qualified.Whineberg seems to believe it is the former, so he replied "Great Post." |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:32:18 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:18:38 2016. No he was not right and you just said so.That is what I said and it's not my problem that you do not know how to read. You doubt they didn't consider the cost to others. YES YOU DOUBT IT BE AUSE YOU NEVER READ ANY OF THE REPORTS. Yet you are still the expert in your mind. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Mon Jul 11 11:20:12 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:27:30 2016. Ugh, I thought I was clear, but I guess not.Did you not see the words body's anywhere? I am going across the board. Top to bottom. When you were hired for planner, did you say you were qualified or did the person doing the interview say you were qualified? How many times did you wonder who hired a person because they don't know what they are doing? And just because one has paid for an education for a type of work, doesn't mean qualified. Sometimes it just means somebody tossed away money because they can't do the job. As to other peoples replies, what do you want me to do about a keyboard over 10 miles away from me? I don't see another keyboard wire at the back of my computer, so i can't disconnect it. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jul 11 12:00:52 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:22:40 2016. He just didn't like the question because he stated that every single pedestrian death needs to be prevented no matter what the consequences even if you would have to ban all motorized vehicles.No one suggested banning all motor vehicles to prevent pedestrian deaths. That's your own hyperbole, where you equate a 25 mph speed limit to banning all motor vehicles. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jul 11 17:19:35 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 08:01:13 2016. BUT you only agree with your gang. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 18:58:07 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jul 11 17:19:35 2016. No I don't. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 19:12:27 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by Cornell Park on Mon Jul 11 11:20:12 2016. I never had to say I was qualified because he knew that I was and told me so. He even said he wanted no one else for the job.And I agree that just because Somene has a degree in something does not automatically make him qualified. You just have to look at the doctors who commit malpractice. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 19:13:26 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:15:48 2016. Yes but back then you were supposedly hired for a position supposedly well above low-level, and supposedly you already had an ongoing active working relationship with them. |
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