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Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Jan 10 10:19:12 2016 Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division)New York Bus Service begins operation of the BxM - 7A Pelham Bay Park - Manhattan Express between the Pelham Bay Park subway station in The Bronx and 23 Street in Manhattan. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Jan 10 12:19:35 2016, in response to Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division), posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Jan 10 10:19:12 2016. do you know anything about the start of QM4 service? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Jan 10 13:47:52 2016, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division), posted by Union Tpke on Sun Jan 10 12:19:35 2016. do you know anything about the start of QM4 service?The QM-4 began on August 16, 1971. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by Dan on Sun Jan 10 15:01:51 2016, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division), posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Jan 10 13:47:52 2016. IIRC the various MTA and franchise express services were started in part because of increasing crime in the subways. Particularly in the Bronx. What was the first express bus route in the city? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by Andy on Sun Jan 10 15:24:55 2016, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division), posted by Dan on Sun Jan 10 15:01:51 2016. In Queens - Steinway Transit's Fresh Meadows route from 188th St./Union Tpke. to Midtown, started February 1968.In The Bronx - Riverdale Transit's Midtown-Riverdale services (to/from East and West Sides), started August 1968. In Staten Island - NYCTA's X9 route, started December 1968. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by Dan on Sun Jan 10 15:44:56 2016, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division), posted by Andy on Sun Jan 10 15:24:55 2016. B29X (later X29) announcement 2/14/1972 (pdf):https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/72cef3f1-1e6c-452a-a3c9-a838402cd176 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by northshore on Sun Jan 10 16:42:23 2016, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division), posted by Dan on Sun Jan 10 15:01:51 2016. The first express bus in NYC was the R8X Staten Island-Downtown Brooklyn. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by HART BUS on Mon Jan 11 13:01:06 2016, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division), posted by Dan on Sun Jan 10 15:01:51 2016. I seen to recall that they were also started in the "two-fare" zones at the time and also by charging a premium fare, it would reduce the City subsidies to the PBL's |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division) |
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Posted by Andy on Tue Jan 12 00:06:47 2016, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac - January 10, 1972 - The Book of First Runs (Surface Division), posted by HART BUS on Mon Jan 11 13:01:06 2016. City subsidies to the PBLs did not start till the mid-70s at the earliest. The franchises were awarded to PBLs to give those firms chance to make bigger profits and thus increase their franchise tax payments to NYC. The director of NYC's Bureau of Franchises in those days, Morris Tarshis, was a big proponent of awarding express routes to the PBLs because he didn't like NYCTA. When the franchise for the Bayside/Whitestone Express route was awarded to Queens Transit around 1969, I recall that NYCTA bid for it but was lost out to QT, with Tarshis's blessing. QT was allowed to charge 85 cents for this route (basic transit fare was then 20 cents) while NYCTA proposed a 95 cent fare. |
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