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NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 20 14:11:24 2014 @ 1:07 New Fare Payment System @ 14:32 BusTime Presentation pdf document link:http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/140519_1345_CPOC.pdf * page 7: New Fare Payment System for LIRR, Metro-North, NYC Transit * page 18: NYC Transit's BusTime Presentation on Bustime, selected slides....    
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed May 21 19:12:21 2014, in response to NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 20 14:11:24 2014. MTA has a target date for adding "minutes away" in BusTime... May 2015. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed May 21 19:34:05 2014, in response to Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by Gold_12th on Wed May 21 19:12:21 2014. I think "minutes away" is too difficult to predict on New York City roads. If the bus catches all greens and doesn't make any stops, that four minutes to arrival will cause you to miss the bus. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by b1bus on Thu May 22 13:16:03 2014, in response to Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by G1Ravage on Wed May 21 19:34:05 2014. Also wheelchair riders take time. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by ryanov on Wed May 28 03:05:19 2014, in response to NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 20 14:11:24 2014. Seems to me it's "bus distance" not BusTime. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 30 10:37:21 2014, in response to Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by G1Ravage on Wed May 21 19:34:05 2014. You shouldn't try to cut it that close anyway. Buses are not supposed to run early. If anything the time projections will be optimistic so you will have to wait one or two minutes more. Still better than mies. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 30 10:53:08 2014, in response to Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 30 10:37:21 2014. No. The whole point is for the times to be accurate so you can cut it close. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 30 12:40:52 2014, in response to Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 30 10:53:08 2014. You should still allow five minutes. That would be reasonable. Thinking you can arrive one or two minutes before the bus is scheduled to arrive is a little ridiculous. No one does that with railroads or planes, and they shouldn't expect it with buses. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri May 30 13:14:53 2014, in response to Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 30 10:53:08 2014. Well, there's a limit to how close is realistically possible. Even under ideal conditions (buses are evenly spaced, no overcrowding, no wheelchairs, etc), there's still some variance from the drivers themselves. If mosr drivers miss a certain traffic light, but a particular driver makes it, that could easily be your minute or two right there.I mean, for that matter, it could work the other way as well. The driver's been on schedule the whole time, but they miss a traffic light, and now they're a minute or two behind what BusTime expected. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 30 17:42:25 2014, in response to Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 30 12:40:52 2014. That's why we have BusTime...so you don't need to get there early and can cut it very close. You don't seem to understand this concept. Heck, even before BusTime I didn't arrive at the bus stop 5 minutes early! That's crazy! My buses never ran that early, AFAIK. |
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Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 30 17:43:59 2014, in response to Re: NYC Transit: New Fare Payement System & BusTime; presentation update, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri May 30 13:14:53 2014. I think there are quite reasonable ways to deal with those issues! It's all in the programming. It uses many more variables than just the timetable to predict the actual arrival time. |
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