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Posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 18:50:39 2013 Anyone remember when the Orion VII OGs CNGs and hybrids first arrived? I did, and I was glad when they replaced the old GMC and non-repowered TMC RTS's. |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Sun Aug 11 19:01:13 2013, in response to Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 18:50:39 2013. Actually, the first Orion VII arrived for us in the summer of 2002. 7560. |
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Posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 19:35:41 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Sun Aug 11 19:01:13 2013. You're thinking of #6365 because #7560 is from 2001. Also, I meant production buses, not the pilots. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 11 22:01:44 2013, in response to Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 18:50:39 2013. Oh god, I have nightmares of those GMC RTSes... they may well be the only piece of retired transit equipment that I would go out of my way to avoid if one ever showed up again.The original seating plan of the O7 (with the two rows of forward facing seats in the rear section instead of more sideways seats) had me happy about the O7s. Now since for most of them it is not possible to sit facing forward in the high up section with a clear window [the flag wrap prevents the rear row from serving this purpose], they are solidly "meh" buses to me. |
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Posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 22:07:53 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 11 22:01:44 2013. I remember when they were really starting to take over are 2004 and 2005. |
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Posted by TheHat on Sun Aug 11 23:30:34 2013, in response to Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 18:50:39 2013. Nothing to be glad about! The O7 is nothing, I mean nothing to be proud about! The O7 is a piece of SHIT! Now walk away. You see this (Orion VII) its shit. Oh look its a piece of SHIT! NOW WALK AWAY! |
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Posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 23:32:17 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by TheHat on Sun Aug 11 23:30:34 2013. If anything is a POS, it would have to be the XD40/XD60s and the LFS's. Those are POS. |
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Posted by CJ on Mon Aug 12 01:24:24 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 23:32:17 2013. At least the LFS and Xcelsiors are still being built. Just sayin. |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 08:52:37 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 19:35:41 2013. The second (our current) 7560 was built in late 2002. |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 08:53:15 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 19:35:41 2013. Also the current 6365 is the third 6365 built for us and was built in 2003. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Mon Aug 12 09:09:52 2013, in response to Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Sun Aug 11 18:50:39 2013. I remember well seeing these buses as they first arrived and entered service. It's still amazes me how the arrival of the O7's coupled with the growing use of artics have all but ended the reign of the RTS in Manhattan. |
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Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 11:51:08 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 08:52:37 2013. What happened to the first one then? |
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Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 11:51:55 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 08:53:15 2013. Third? Do you have a link for this or something? |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:00:37 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 11:51:08 2013. The first one was road tested here in NYC, but didn't run in passenger service. That bus had the original Orion 7 look, which didn't have the rounded drivers window. The second unit which did test in passenger service out of Mother Clara Hale and later went down to SEPTA ended up back at Orion and became a demo. Because of the mileage of that unit, another 6365 was built and shipped to the MTA between buses 6487 and 6488. If you look at 6365, its body lines are closer to the 6490 and up batch than the 6366-6489 batch of the order. |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:02:29 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 11:51:55 2013. Nope, but all of this is proven in the Orion Bus Production list for which I have a hard print copy of via VIN numbers and such. Also, I was around for this at the time.The 7560 we have is also the second 7560, the first 7560 went back to Orion as well and became a demo. |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:10:29 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:00:37 2013. The first 6365 looked similar to this, this is not the exact unit (I'm trying to find the photo of it though in the meantime) (Jan Boic Photo)  The second 6365 (Trevor Logan Photo)  The third and final 6365 (Trevor Logan Photo)  |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:12:30 2013, in response to (6365) Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:10:29 2013. First 7560 (Trevor Logan Photo) The Second and Final 7560 (Trevor Logan Photo) 
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Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 12:17:54 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:00:37 2013. But #6365 had the 2001-2003 style Orion VII rooftop. The newer ones have a smoother roof. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Aug 12 12:36:55 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:02:29 2013. Thanks for confirming that info. I got a few chances to ride the original #7560, when it was tested at Gun Hill Depot on the Bx28. It ran around the 1st quarter of 2002 at GH (maybe a little longer than that), then transferred over to Jackie Gleason. Never saw it since then. I actually liked the front exterior of that bus compared to the one that replaced it later. |
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Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 13:10:53 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Aug 12 12:36:55 2013. Did it go on all of JG's routes back then? |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 12 13:10:54 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Aug 12 12:36:55 2013. Bx28  The suppose standard interior that we could have   2x2 rear seats 
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Posted by RailBus63 on Mon Aug 12 13:23:53 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 12 13:10:54 2013. Not getting the photos. |
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Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 13:29:19 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 12 13:10:54 2013. Stupid fuck. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 12 13:29:39 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by RailBus63 on Mon Aug 12 13:23:53 2013. try this link: http://orion7gallery.tripod.com/orion7/id3.html, gallery of photos #7560 / #6365 |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 12 13:31:50 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 13:29:19 2013. 
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Aug 12 14:09:13 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:00:37 2013. Actually, looking at the last picture, the body lines are exactly the way they were when 6365 and 7560 came out. That didn't change, just the front grille. They never touched the roofline on either bus. |
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Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 14:15:19 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Aug 12 14:09:13 2013. And #7561-7684 came with the same roofline as #7560 and #6365. Orion changed the style after those buses. |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 14:21:50 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Aug 12 14:09:13 2013. Wasn't referring to the roofline... |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 14:25:03 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 13:10:53 2013. The original 7560 spent VERY little time at JG. In fact its 95% of the time it was at Gun Hill was spent on the Bx28.The second 7560 of course spent its entire life at JG. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Mon Aug 12 15:23:53 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 12 13:29:39 2013. Thanks. |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Mon Aug 12 16:07:34 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 14:21:50 2013. OK, so what else could you be referring to? |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Aug 12 16:44:43 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 14:25:03 2013. I also heard on Transit Talk, that it wasn't at JG for long. One of it's features was a public address system, which announced the bus stops. There was for example, 'NEXT STOP, DREISER LOOP'. Of course, when the bus was transferred to JG, that feature was disabled, since the JG routes were not programmed into the unit. Shame it didn't last too long. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Aug 12 17:02:26 2013, in response to (7560) Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:12:30 2013. Yep, there's the once familiar bus at 206th & Bainbridge!I thought they actually modified the front there! |
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Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 17:09:09 2013, in response to Re: (7560) Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Aug 12 17:02:26 2013. Yeah, so did I. |
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Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 22:42:16 2013, in response to Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Aug 12 16:44:43 2013. That would of been interesting if they kept that feature on the Orion VIIs. |
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Posted by trav-one on Tue Aug 13 01:29:32 2013, in response to (7560) Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by R160A A Train on Mon Aug 12 12:12:30 2013. There was a X83, I didn't know about that!!! |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Aug 13 01:33:30 2013, in response to Re: (7560) Re: Orion VII turns 10 in NYCT!, posted by trav-one on Tue Aug 13 01:29:32 2013. X80-series are special event routes |
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