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New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 08:48:36 2013

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Is there any info into when NICE is going to replace all the remaining 2000 Orion V CNGs?

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by NorthShore on Fri Jul 19 08:55:39 2013, in response to New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 08:48:36 2013.

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That is the big question.
Now that MTA is no longer subsidizing the system and providing the buses, will Nassau County finally pay its part to buy new buses?
Nassau did not want to pay the MTA costs, so now they are stuck paying for the entire system.
We shall see.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 09:02:17 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by NorthShore on Fri Jul 19 08:55:39 2013.

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But isn't Veolia helping with paying for the buses? I know that technically, the Orion VII 3G CNGs were MTA's buses, but didn't Veolia chipped in for those too? Also, I heard that in the coming years Veolia will:

-purchase 40 CNG 40Fters in 2013-2014

-purchase 70 CNG 40 Fters in 2015-2016

-purchase 171 CNG 40 Fters in 2018-2019.

What the hell are those 171 buses going to replace? It can't be the NG CNGs, those buses will only be 9-10 years old by then. Is NICE planning a fleet expansion or perhaps a new depot?

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by NorthShore on Fri Jul 19 09:33:29 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 09:02:17 2013.

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Veolia is a corporation that provides operating services. They are paid by Nassau County to operate the bus service.
Nassau County must provide the equipment.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 10:52:57 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 09:02:17 2013.

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where do you get these numbers, especially 171 buses?

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 10:54:13 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 10:52:57 2013.

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It was from a post on this site months ago. I guess they are for both replacement and fleet expansion. MTA LIBus never gotten that many buses at one time in years.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:10:21 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 10:54:13 2013.

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but your numbers are WRONG. find me the link if it is true.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:14:16 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:10:21 2013.

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I can't find it now. I lost the link months ago. It is said to be on NICE's webpage somewhere. I know that the 171 order is infact correct as is the 70 bus order. The 40 bus order I'm not too sure about.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 11:18:17 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:14:16 2013.

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For such a small company 171 buses at one time seem too high to me.

A small company would order 30-40 a year to level out the fleet age.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:19:51 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 11:18:17 2013.

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Yes, but NICE isn't really that small. It's more of a mid sized TA. Also, this is years from now. Who knows how big it may get.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:19:51 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 11:18:17 2013.

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Yes, but NICE isn't really that small. It's more of a mid sized TA. Also, this is years from now. Who knows how big it may get.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:25:54 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 11:18:17 2013.

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He made it up.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:27:56 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:25:54 2013.

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No, I did not. Go Google NICE bus RFP or something, it should be there. This was back in like, January.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:28:16 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:19:51 2013.

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But your numbers are WRONG.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:29:02 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:28:16 2013.

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How so? Tell me why smart guy?

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(Correct numbers) Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:32:06 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:14:16 2013.

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70 CNG buses (40 ft) 2014-2016....$36.6 Million (67 replacements, 3 expansion)


103 CNG buses (40 ft) 2018-2019....~$55 Million (100 replacements, 3 expansion)


from http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=273049

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:32:28 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:29:02 2013.

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Because you made it up, smartass

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:32:57 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:27:56 2013.

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Why are you telling lies?

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:33:39 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:32:28 2013.

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Look, this is my first day here. I'm not looking for trouble.

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Re: (Correct numbers) Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 11:34:12 2013, in response to (Correct numbers) Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:32:06 2013.

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That I can see based on the size of the Nassau Co. system and the number of new buses they already have.

His numbers would have them replacing buses that would be less than 10 years old.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:35:49 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:33:39 2013.

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You are looking for trouble...

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:41:09 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:35:49 2013.

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Hey, what's your damage? I don't even think I really know you.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:49:06 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:41:09 2013.

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I dont even know you yet you lie about your info. Hooray.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:50:39 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:49:06 2013.

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I was not lying. I just mistook the 171 bus order for something else (probably the JG allotment of 2012 C40LFs).

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:57:30 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:50:39 2013.

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Yeah, you got great memory.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:59:57 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:57:30 2013.

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At least I was right about the 70 bus order.

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 12:18:28 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:59:57 2013.

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but your other numbers were wrong.

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Re: (Correct numbers) Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 20 10:16:44 2013, in response to (Correct numbers) Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 11:32:06 2013.

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With Orion out of the bus building business, it will be interesting to see which company will be chosen to fill these orders.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Aug 12 23:35:37 2013, in response to Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by R62CNG on Fri Jul 19 11:33:39 2013.

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HAHA... Trouble.

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Re: (Correct numbers) Re: New NICE bus deployments

Posted by caine515 on Tue Aug 13 18:29:00 2013, in response to Re: (Correct numbers) Re: New NICE bus deployments, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 11:34:12 2013.

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Im guessing the orion V are next to go. Technically they are at least 13 years old. The 3G would go in 8 years or so.

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