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MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Sep 27 20:10:49 2012

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Its Casey Stengel 6853 BBQ bus

An MTA bus was partially consumed by flames this morning on the Van Wyck Expressway near exit 11 in Queens. An FDNY spokesman says the blaze erupted at approximately 7 a.m., and five units responded to the fire, which was quickly extinguished. Fortunately there were no injuries, but traffic on the highway was seriously backed up during the morning rush.

An MTA spokesman confirms it was a city bus, and tells us there were no passengers on board. The cause of the blaze is now under investigation.
---Gothamist.com

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(Aftermath pic) Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Sep 27 20:17:26 2012, in response to MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Sep 27 20:10:49 2012.

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from @robmintzes

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Sep 27 20:37:04 2012, in response to MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Sep 27 20:10:49 2012.

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That bus is TOASTED!

Seriously, what's with buses catching fire as of late?

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Flxible4life on Thu Sep 27 21:12:27 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by LRG5784 on Thu Sep 27 20:37:04 2012.

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Yeah, this doesn't look good for MTA's Orion 7 hybrids. Another reason why they're converting one and possibly lots more into diesel. So far, I haven't heard to many problems of WMATA's New Flyer hybrids of DE40LF, DE40LFR and the Xcelsior hybrids. Nor I haven't heard CTA's (Chicago) DE60LF artics of any problems. You know they use those hybrid artics on some of the busy express lines in Chicago.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Sep 27 21:21:29 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Flxible4life on Thu Sep 27 21:12:27 2012.

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No, New Flyers hybrids were recall this year.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 28 00:03:55 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by LRG5784 on Thu Sep 27 20:37:04 2012.

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That looks repairable, however. I'd be surprised to see it back this year, however.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by TheHat on Fri Sep 28 03:07:24 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Flxible4life on Thu Sep 27 21:12:27 2012.

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The Orion VII Hybrid quick capsule review: "piece of shit", everyone gets confused with, "It's green, saves fuel" and "the intial cost will be offset, by fuel savings". MTA & Orion squatted let out a loaf, satan's shit, piece of shit & They put a hybrid sticker on it. They shit PCS, traction generators, traction motors, get 3.1 MPG. The Orion VII Hybrid "PIECE OF SHIT, NOW WALK AWAY".

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Sep 28 03:54:03 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Sep 27 21:21:29 2012.

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Guess "hybrid" and "bus" simply just don't go together.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Sep 28 09:08:19 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Flxible4life on Thu Sep 27 21:12:27 2012.

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Buses catch fire for various reasons. There have been examples in other cities of fires with New Flyer LF's, RTS's, etc.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 28 10:05:41 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by TheHat on Fri Sep 28 03:07:24 2012.

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The O7 hybrid gets only 3.1 mpg? The Nova LFS artics get better fuel mileage than that.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by BigBusDriver on Fri Sep 28 10:22:30 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by LRG5784 on Fri Sep 28 03:54:03 2012.

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Guess "hybrid" and "bus" simply just don't go together.


Sure they do..... just add "marshmallows"....


STILL
LOL@MTA OR MOSTLY TOASTED ANTICS

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by CJ on Fri Sep 28 12:16:53 2012, in response to MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Sep 27 20:10:49 2012.

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I'm just glad no one was hurt. I am also hoping this was just a random bus fire happening for reasons, otherwise I am really going to start asking that same question I asked a few days ago about hybrid buses.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Brooklyn67 on Fri Sep 28 12:40:56 2012, in response to MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Sep 27 20:10:49 2012.

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Most engine compartment fires are due to faulty wiring, worn cabling or other invasive/corrosive/defective/damaged electrical components.

It's happened to me once.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Sep 28 12:41:49 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by CJ on Fri Sep 28 12:16:53 2012.

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Fire Suppression System fail on 6853. Its likely just a random bus fire.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Brooklyn67 on Fri Sep 28 12:44:05 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Sep 28 12:41:49 2012.

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No such thing as a "random bus fire". And the fire suppression system will only work when there's an continuous closed circuit. An electrical fire can, and does interfere with it.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Sep 28 22:19:01 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by BigBusDriver on Fri Sep 28 10:22:30 2012.

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Lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll you're good!

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by TheHat on Sat Sep 29 03:37:11 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Sep 28 10:05:41 2012.

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The avg. in LGA is 3.1 MPG, when they aren't taking a shit.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by LRG5784 on Sat Sep 29 05:47:50 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by TheHat on Sat Sep 29 03:37:11 2012.

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Lol!

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 12:48:56 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by TheHat on Sat Sep 29 03:37:11 2012.

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LFSAs get about 3.5-3.7 mpg. I could definitely see the fleet being converted to straight diesel if the test bus works out.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by daimlerbuses on Sat Sep 29 13:18:43 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 12:48:56 2012.

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Is there any report online that states the fuel efficiency of each MTA bus series/type? Just curious where these figures are being drawn from.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by TheHat on Sat Sep 29 14:50:18 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by daimlerbuses on Sat Sep 29 13:18:43 2012.

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Nothing online, I got that from triage reports, DTS data @ the depot when I was assigned to Queens N. div. shifter.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 29 16:04:49 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 12:48:56 2012.

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All the money they'd have to spend.........it's a lot of buses...........the original ones (OG's) are just about at the half way point in their 12 year service life.........by the time the evaluation is completed it will be another year or 2, then to do them all........

It won't be worth it. Just deal with them and get rid of them when they're 12 years old.

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Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway

Posted by Cornell Park on Sat Sep 29 17:54:55 2012, in response to Re: MTA NYCT Orion VII Hyshit #6853 fire near exit 11 Van Wyck Expressway, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 29 16:04:49 2012.

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Replace one traction motor and one traction generator and your cost to convert the bus is covered. They take a crap every few years.

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