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Posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011 This happend two Fridays ago in Mineola. Bus got t-boned by a garbage truck.    
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 2 20:43:34 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. MTA will still blame the operator! |
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Posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Jul 2 21:03:31 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 2 20:43:34 2011. ain't that the truth |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 2 21:26:09 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. ouch...whats that number of the bus 18 ___ ___ ? |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Jul 2 21:34:47 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. Hopefully nobody was sitting in those seats when the accident happen.Also does anyone else notice that the window behind the drivers window seems to be separated from the bus at the bottom? |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Sat Jul 2 21:34:49 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Jul 2 21:03:31 2011. Word. Had a bone head run a red light, with a witness, and hit me left side behind the front wheels. I was charged with a "preventable".Appealing as we speak. Union says "Good luck with them changing it!" |
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Posted by B53RICH on Sat Jul 2 21:39:04 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. There was another a few weeks back as well.Newsday article:  Hempstead Turnpike was closed in both directions in West Hempstead for nearly an hour Tuesday afternoon (6-14) after an SUV overturned and careened into the side of an MTA bus. The accident occurred just west of Nassau Boulevard; the driver of the SUV and the passengers on the bus were not reported injured. Police were investigating the incident. (June 14, 2011) Photo Credit: Photo by Lou Minutoli |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Jul 2 21:42:47 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by BigBusDriver on Sat Jul 2 21:34:49 2011. That Sucks, I don't know what happen to the Suffolk Transit Driver that got into that accident with 5014 over a year ago. Last I heard he was ridding with the driver of the 7B a few weeks ago. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 2 22:23:16 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. I just hope those seats were unoccupied when the bus was T-boned.It looks like bus 1808. I just hope that the frame isn't cracked. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 2 22:59:16 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 2 22:23:16 2011. looks to be 1808 as I zoom into the pic. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Jul 2 23:21:56 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 2 22:59:16 2011. At first I was going to say it could have been 1828, but now I agree that it could be 1808. |
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Posted by hound on Sun Jul 3 00:57:34 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 2 21:26:09 2011. It's 1808. |
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Posted by hound on Sun Jul 3 01:01:55 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Mac5689 on Sat Jul 2 21:34:47 2011. There were no pass. aboard. Driver was deadheading from Mineola to Hempstead. Besides the window popping out,the floor is buckled even in the rear upper level, & there's a bulge on the right side. |
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Posted by futureKBArticop on Sun Jul 3 01:03:23 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. The frame is definetly cracked on that bus. No question, the bus is scrap. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Jul 3 01:08:51 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by futureKBArticop on Sun Jul 3 01:03:23 2011. I was thinking the same thing, based on Hounds description of the damages the bus sounds like it is at the end of the road. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Jul 3 01:15:57 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sun Jul 3 01:01:55 2011. Well at least there were no passengers on board at the time.I was told once that someone had said that if one of Suffolk Transit's Orion VII's was in a accident like their Orion V 9937 had a few years ago that people could have been hurt. I thought that the person was being over dramatic, but I was wrong. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Jul 3 02:02:36 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sun Jul 3 00:57:34 2011. scrap pending...? |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sun Jul 3 02:06:07 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Mac5689 on Sun Jul 3 01:15:57 2011. damn Thats done ECH scrap. |
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Posted by SJP7121 on Sun Jul 3 03:28:54 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by B53RICH on Sat Jul 2 21:39:04 2011. Damn. I'll bet the SUV was speeding, was trying to avoid the bus, passing it, but over corrected himself and caused that mess. |
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Posted by SJP7121 on Sun Jul 3 03:30:22 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sun Jul 3 02:06:07 2011. sucks. still looks to be in great condition, almost new. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jul 3 03:45:25 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by BigBusDriver on Sat Jul 2 21:34:49 2011. What I said! |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Jul 3 03:45:28 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by SJP7121 on Sun Jul 3 03:28:54 2011. Or maybe the driver thought they could get threw the intersection before the bus, noticed they couldn't and then that happen. |
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Posted by CapitalCruiser on Sun Jul 3 08:41:33 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 2 22:23:16 2011. There is no "frame" under the bus. It's all unibody. Because of the age, I'll bet the insurance dept. orders it fixed. I've seen alot worse than that and they were fixed and returned to service. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jul 3 08:45:47 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. Interesting photos, I hope they take that ISL engine in the bus and stick it in a JG VII OG bus, love the smoothness and the "bat outta hell" acceleration. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jul 3 08:46:52 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jul 3 08:45:47 2011. ... If the bus is scrap, that is. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Jul 3 11:58:27 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by SJP7121 on Sun Jul 3 03:30:22 2011. The bus is not even a year old. Went into service earlier this year.Pablo |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 3 12:00:00 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by SJP7121 on Sun Jul 3 03:30:22 2011. That bus is only 7 months old. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 3 12:00:36 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 3 12:00:00 2011. Now, it should still be under warranty. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun Jul 3 12:03:24 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 3 12:00:36 2011. Since when does a warranty cover accident damage? |
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Posted by caine515 on Sun Jul 3 13:16:33 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. bummer. It was a good bus. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Jul 3 13:24:46 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by caine515 on Sun Jul 3 13:16:33 2011. How do you know that? Did you drive it? |
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Posted by MCI GUY on Sun Jul 3 13:45:46 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Mac5689 on Sun Jul 3 03:45:28 2011. mta will sat bus driver 100 percent at fault. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 3 15:18:45 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by BigBusDriver on Sat Jul 2 21:34:49 2011. Can't a good lawyer fight that charge? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 3 16:15:25 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by BigBusDriver on Sat Jul 2 21:34:49 2011. Greyhound is the same way |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Sun Jul 3 16:49:56 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 3 15:18:45 2011. The point is I shouldn't NEED a lawyer! I have witnesses and have made diagrams of the intersection showing distances from building edge to curb, etc. And I have THEIR schedule showing the speed THEY want me to drive THEIR bus.Ace in the hole: told the accident investigator that if they uphold the charge, I want a copy of the verdict so I can give it to the red light runners insurance company, showing that MY company is blaming ME for the accident! Wouldn't THAT be nice for him??? |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 3 19:16:39 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by BigBusDriver on Sun Jul 3 16:49:56 2011. I know that you shouldn't need a lawyer...that would be the situation in a perfect world...but in the real world, transit agencies exist to intimidate and fuck with their front line employees, and they need to be put in their place once in a while...There was a case at NJ Transit where they attempted to blame an employee for a situation that clearly was not his fault, and he hired a lawyer and not only got his job back, but won big money (don't recall the exact amount) for the unnecessary bullshit they put him through... |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Jul 3 21:52:35 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by MCI GUY on Sun Jul 3 13:45:46 2011. That would suck if they do. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Jul 3 21:59:25 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by CapitalCruiser on Sun Jul 3 08:41:33 2011. If its ordered fixed then my guess is it would take nearly a year to fix. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Jul 3 22:59:12 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 3 12:00:36 2011. Probably, but a warranty covers defects, not damage from an accident. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sun Jul 3 23:39:31 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sun Jul 3 02:06:07 2011. Nah not at all. SEPTA's 5414 was in a similar accident when it wa new...and I think with even more damage than that...and it's in service today.It'll take a while, but that LI Bus can run again. The question is...who will make sure it gets fixed if it takes longer than 6 months? |
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Posted by busdude2 on Mon Jul 4 05:42:04 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. You should have shown the bus number or told us. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jul 4 10:15:59 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jul 3 19:16:39 2011. but won big moneyHmmmm NOW you got me thinking!!! LOL! |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jul 4 10:17:18 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Mac5689 on Sun Jul 3 21:59:25 2011. A year is WAY too long! Most Base Shops in MTA could knock that out a LOT sooner! |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Jul 4 11:33:52 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jul 4 10:15:59 2011. My suggestion: find out who this gentleman's lawyer was. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 4 12:56:12 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by busdude2 on Mon Jul 4 05:42:04 2011. It's 1808. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Jul 4 13:38:03 2011, in response to LIB Accident, posted by hound on Sat Jul 2 20:36:46 2011. Wow, that is some shit right there.... |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Mon Jul 4 15:10:57 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jul 4 10:17:18 2011. I was going to say that maybe they could do it in less time, I just couldn't find a way that sounded right. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Jul 4 18:15:24 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jul 4 10:15:59 2011. THIS was the case I was referring to... |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jul 4 20:39:00 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by Mac5689 on Mon Jul 4 15:10:57 2011. No harm, no foul. The floor neeeds to be fixed (plywood) then the matting, side panels and insulation and whatnot then the seats. Quick trip thru the paint shop, and she's back in revenue service. I don't think she's a total write off, HOWEVER, I might be mistaken. Lord knows it's happened before! |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jul 4 20:49:31 2011, in response to Re: LIB Accident, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Jul 4 18:15:24 2011. Outstanding. Thanks for the info. However, the Authority's finding only affects my job performance and I am in no position to get in much trouble over an "At Fault" rating, but it's the principle. I told theWhat he went thru.... wouldn't wish that on .... even most members of management! |
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