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MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011

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Latest update on MTA bus orders.....

NovaBus LFS 40 footer; [30 buses each depot]

• 8000 - 8029: Castleton (Now til end of Apri)

• 8030 - 8059: Ulmer Park (April - May)

• 8060 - 8089: Queens Village (May - June)


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Orion VII (07.501) EPA10; [30 buses each depot]

• 7000 - 7029: Castleton (September - October)

• 7030 - 7059: Ulmer Park (October - November)

• 7060 - 7089: Queens Village (November - December)

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New Flyer XD40LF "Xcelsior"; [30 buses each depot]

• 4810 - 4839: Castleton (August - October)

• 4840 - 4869: Ulmer Park (October - November)

• 4870 - 4899: Queens Village (November - December)

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Prevost X3-45; 45 foot commuter coach
• 1 Pilot bus delivered in July.

• 2400 - 2499: Yukon; [50 buses] : (October - December)

• 2450 - 2489: Ulmer Park; [40 buses] : (December 2011 - January 2012)


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New Flyer C40LF; 40 foot CNG transit
• 2 Pilot buses delivered sometime in April; Spring Creek and West Farms (1 bus each)

• 185 - 208: Spring Creek; [24 buses] : (September -1 bus delivered-; October - November)

• 209 - 229: College Point; [21 buses] : (November - December)

• 230 - 283: West Farms; [54 buses] : (December 2011 - January 2012)

• 284 - 319: Jackie Gleason; [36 buses] : (January 2012 - March 2012)


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Looking ahead for next year....

- New Flyer "Xcelsior" XD60LF - 90 articulated buses, For NYCT

- Nova Bus LFS articulated - 328 articulated buses, for NYCT & MTA Bus????

- 74 CNG (40 foot) bus main order + 30 option [competitive bid] for MTA Bus

- Nova LFS (SunWin) hybrid demo bus for NYCT

- VPG MV-1 [Paratransit] (15 for gasoline & 15 for CNG) - ON HOLD


****SUBJECT TO CHANGE**** given that MTA history on the projected dates maybe off 1 or 2 months....

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, [correction]

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:49:43 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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Prevost: 2400 - 2449: Yukon; [50 buses] : (October - December)

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Thu Apr 7 23:04:40 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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Nitpick: there is no "LF" after the Xcelsior model names.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 23:09:03 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by R22 Shoal Point on Thu Apr 7 23:04:40 2011.

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thanks.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu Apr 7 23:09:43 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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There's in LFS Hybrid coming? I guess MTA isn't reverting to diesel. I can't to see the JG New Flyers on the B61.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by LRG5784 on Thu Apr 7 23:23:36 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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Thanks for the tips for the New Flyer C40LFRs and Prevosts.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 23:54:27 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu Apr 7 23:09:43 2011.

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It's just 1 bus demo... and yeah, there will be some hyshit orders, next year so.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Apr 8 01:16:46 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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Unless WF is going to be almost mainly CNGs or sending out some of their newer O7 CNGs, I don't understand why they would get more newer buses compared to JG where the newest buses they have are the O7s.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by sinclair on Fri Apr 8 01:37:16 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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The C40's. Will try be the restyled version, by any chance and will the Nova LFS Sunwin will be the same design as the currently Nova LFSs.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Apr 8 01:49:48 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by sinclair on Fri Apr 8 01:37:16 2011.

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The C40LF is restyled version. The restyled crap in now the standard model across the properties.

The SunWin (China) is the electric hybrid propulsion system that will be placed on the Nova LFS. MTA has score in to test the bus next year, demo only.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by sinclair on Fri Apr 8 01:58:07 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Apr 8 01:49:48 2011.

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If the SunWin Nova LFS becomes passable, which fleet do you think will be replaced next: The RTS 98-00 or The Orion Vs. The next C40LF restyle is probably gonna replace the old style C40s. I mean, what do you think.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Apr 8 02:28:11 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by sinclair on Fri Apr 8 01:58:07 2011.

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I dont want to jump ahead. But, its a DEMO. thats it. Wait til the Nova LFS/SunWin bus gets here.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by sinclair on Fri Apr 8 02:57:27 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Apr 8 02:28:11 2011.

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fare enough.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by Lothian on Fri Apr 8 04:39:18 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu Apr 7 23:09:43 2011.

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More like a LFS Electric, actually, not hybrid ;)

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by MCI GUY on Fri Apr 8 08:09:21 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Apr 8 02:28:11 2011.

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if it gets here. thanks for tthe post gold12tH.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by MCI GUY on Fri Apr 8 08:17:19 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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prevost buses dont fit in yukon. it should read castleton and that is where there are many 1998 buses past their retirement age.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Apr 8 08:19:45 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by MCI GUY on Fri Apr 8 08:09:21 2011.

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Yup. We were supposed to get a hydrogen demo since last year and it never came.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Fri Apr 8 08:33:31 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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Why are the Prevosts starting at 24XX instead of 23XX - we don't have any 23XXs now.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 8 09:47:03 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by MCI GUY on Fri Apr 8 08:17:19 2011.

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Why not? I thought the X3-45s were supposed to be shorter in height than the MCIs. :(

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 8 10:00:50 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Apr 8 09:47:03 2011.

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The wheelbase, however, is 16 inches longer.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Fri Apr 8 10:58:40 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by Lothian on Fri Apr 8 04:39:18 2011.

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Ok, sounds interesting I guess.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Apr 8 13:11:49 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Apr 8 10:00:50 2011.

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But the bus is still 45' long. Does the longer wheelbase really make a difference?

And why Castleton, and not Charleston?

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by LRG5784 on Fri Apr 8 13:27:56 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Apr 8 13:11:49 2011.

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The youngest MCIs Charleston have are 2003 models...the only thing that needs to be updated is their local bus fleet more than their express fleet.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by MCI GUY on Fri Apr 8 14:30:17 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Apr 8 13:11:49 2011.

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cas is the home for all bte buses.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by UTC Bus Roster on Fri Apr 8 23:09:01 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by MCI GUY on Fri Apr 8 14:30:17 2011.

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I have the following at Charleston:
ORIONS: 6172, 6177-6178, 6183-6184, 6188, 6192-6197, 6199-6208, 6210-6230, 6232-6236, 6239, 6241-6242, 6243-6244, 6248, 6252-6253, 6255, 6258, 6261, 6271-6285.
MCI: 1919, 1955, 1995, 2011-2012, 2014-2020, 2022-2029, 2032-2044, 2046-2049, 2050-2055, 2057-2059, 2061-2066, 2068, 2070-2075, 2077, 2079-2080, 2082-2118, 2140-2141, 2143, 2145-2146, 2148-2151, 2154, 2156, 2158, 2160-2164, 2166-2168, 2170, 2172, 2174-2176, 2178, 2180-2183, 2187-2188, 2721, 2767, 2810-2811, 2814, 2817-2818, 2821-2823, 2825, 2827, 2829-2830, 4300-4314.
Out of Service: 2111-accident-scrap pending, 4306-accident.

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MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Apr 10 17:03:26 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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Latest update on MTA bus orders.....
40 foot low floor transit buses, 30 buses each depot

NovaBus LFS [#8000 — 8089]
• 8000 — 8029: Castleton (Now til end of Apri)
• 8030 — 8059: Ulmer Park (April - May)
• 8060 — 8089: Queens Village (May - June)


Orion VII (07.501) EPA10; [#7000 — 7089]
• 7000 — 7029: Castleton (September - October)
• 7030 — 7059: Ulmer Park (October - November)
• 7060 — 7089: Queens Village (November - December)


New Flyer XD40 "Xcelsior"; [#4810 — 4899]
• 4810 — 4839: Castleton (August - October)
• 4840 — 4869: Ulmer Park (October - November)
• 4870 — 4899: Queens Village (November - December)




Prevost X3-45; 45 foot commuter coach [#2400 — 2489]
• 1 Pilot bus to be delivered in July.
• 2400 — 2449: Yukon; [50 buses] : (October - December)
• 2450 — 2489: Ulmer Park; [40 buses] : (December 2011 - January 2012)



New Flyer C40LF; 40 foot CNG transit {PRIMARY ORDER}; [#185 — 319]
• 2 Pilot buses to be delivered sometime in April; Spring Creek and West Farms (1 bus each).
• 185 — 208: Spring Creek; [24 buses] : (* 1 bus delivered on September *; October - November)
• 209 — 229: College Point; [21 buses] : (November - December)
• 230 — 283: West Farms; [54 buses] : (December 2011 - January 2012)
• 284 — 319: Jackie Gleason; [36 buses] : (January 2012 - March 2012)
NOTE: There is a option order totaling 340 buses (183 buses for New York City Transit and 157 buses for MTA Bus)


Looking ahead for next year [2012]....
— New Flyer "Xcelsior" XD60 articulated: 90 buses for New York City Transit; to be award in June 2011.

— Nova Bus LFS articulated: 328 buses, for New York City Transit and maybe MTA Bus???? ; to be award in July 2011.

— 60 Commuter express (45 foot) bus for New York City Transit; to be award in June 2011.


— 74 CNG (40 foot) transit bus primary order + 30 option buses; [competitive bid {{cough}}... Orion or New Flyer...{{/cough}}] for MTA Bus; TBA.

— [Option order, if MTA accepts it] New Flyer C40LF 40 foot CNG transit: 340 buses (183 buses for New York City Transit & 157 buses for MTA Bus); TBA.

— Nova Bus LFS (SunWin) “hybrid” electric 40 foot transit bus for New York City Transit, 1 bus, next year.

— VPG MV-1 [Paratransit] 30 vehicles (15 for gasoline & 15 for CNG) - ON HOLD.


****SUBJECT TO CHANGE**** given that MTA history on the projected dates maybe off 1 or 2 months....




That 60 commuter bus order maybe awarded to MCI...

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by LRG5784 on Sun Apr 10 17:06:57 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Sun Apr 10 17:03:26 2011.

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Thanks for the update.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more

Posted by Train2104 on Sun Apr 10 17:10:52 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; depot assignments : New Flyer CNGs, Prevost, & more, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Apr 7 22:45:33 2011.

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328 artics? We'll probably see some in Queens before the end of 2012.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by BedStuyguy on Sun Apr 10 20:07:02 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Sun Apr 10 17:03:26 2011.

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The 74 unit CNG order will NOT be competitive. If you are going to continue to "cyberjack" my shit, at least get it right! If you need it in black and white it is NOW in the committee meeting materials for this month.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 10 20:22:10 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by BedStuyguy on Sun Apr 10 20:07:02 2011.

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Right. It's essentially guaranteed to be an order for 74 Orion VII 3Gs.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Apr 10 20:26:13 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by BedStuyguy on Sun Apr 10 20:07:02 2011.

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Why would I jack your shit...very pathetic of you.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Apr 10 20:33:13 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 10 20:22:10 2011.

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You never know.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by 9 local on Mon Apr 11 00:29:15 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by BedStuyguy on Sun Apr 10 20:07:02 2011.

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How is that cyberjacking your shit, IF the order notes are PUBLIC knowledge in the committe meeting materials and notes

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Apr 11 01:29:11 2011, in response to MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Sun Apr 10 17:03:26 2011.

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60 Suburban Hybrid NGs!

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by BedStuyguy on Mon Apr 11 02:54:03 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by 9 local on Mon Apr 11 00:29:15 2011.

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Because what he has posted in the thread is basically a carbon copy of what I posted before some of it was even public record. I don't care that he copies my MTA stuff, I would just appreciate it if he was original, or at least acknowledge wether the info realy came from. If ANYBODY else did it I wouldn't care.

He bashes all the info I post as fantasy, or non factual. Then when it comes to pass, and is made public record, he posts it, then acts like he knew it all along.

I almost never post info the way it is written in MTA documents. Especially when I obtain info before it hits the TA website. So I know when he's done a copy and paste job. If he had truly read the MTA document, he would have known that info. But seeing as he's coppied and pasted.........

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by LRG5784 on Mon Apr 11 05:27:52 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Apr 11 01:29:11 2011.

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No!!!

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 06:23:18 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by BedStuyguy on Mon Apr 11 02:54:03 2011.

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Bullshit. Once again, where did I copy your post? Where? You are a fucking joker.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 11 06:30:47 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by 9 local on Mon Apr 11 00:29:15 2011.

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Check your email, wanker.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by 9 local on Mon Apr 11 09:46:11 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by BedStuyguy on Sun Apr 10 20:07:02 2011.

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If you read pages 222-225 of this, it is clearly stated that the 74 CNG bus procurement is C O M P E T I T I V E. Which means that as of right now, the order is ANYONE's game.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 11 09:48:22 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by 9 local on Mon Apr 11 09:46:11 2011.

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Cue to the Resident Parrot saying check you email in 3 2 1

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by BedStuyGuy on Mon Apr 11 10:15:43 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by 9 local on Mon Apr 11 09:46:11 2011.

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It's on my desk. I'll check it when I get in, then post it.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 15:51:01 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by 9 local on Mon Apr 11 09:46:11 2011.

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BedStuyGuy is so delusional.


---http://i54.tinypic.com/14mvxhj.jpg March 18th, 2011 "*New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!] by Gold_12th"

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:03:12 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 15:51:01 2011.

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A RFP is not exactly considered a competitive bid, because price is never the single overriding factor and only plays a small role in evaluating proposals. The MTA board document might imply such a thing, but it is not the case.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:06:33 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:03:12 2011.

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Once again, bullshit. The document proves it.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:09:37 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:06:33 2011.

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What exactly does the document prove about my point? I was simply explaining what a RFP was vs. a competitive bid.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:11:29 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:03:12 2011.

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Post #226935: "It still is competitive bidding, except in a RFP price is not the single overriding factor, there are other things that are considered such as delivery time, warranty, meeting specifications, etc."

You want to retract that statement?

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:11:56 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:09:37 2011.

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It doesnt prove your point. You are wrong.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:13:45 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:11:29 2011.

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It is still competitive in the sense that there are multiple manufacturers bidding for it, BUT like I have stated, price is not the single overriding factor such as in a c competitive bid.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:14:39 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:13:45 2011.

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Then dont twist your words.Its a competitive bud. BedStuyguy is clearly wrong.

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Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too]

Posted by daimlerbuses on Mon Apr 11 16:14:50 2011, in response to Re: MTA delivery schedule; bus #; assignements: New Flyer CNG, Prevost,& [add 60 express bus order too], posted by Gold_12th on Mon Apr 11 16:11:56 2011.

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Fine! It's on the internet anyways so it still stands, regardless of whether you agree with me or not.

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