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*New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Mar 18 12:15:38 2011

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RFP document:



On MTA's Board meeting in March, PDF page 53-54

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Mar 18 12:29:19 2011, in response to *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Mar 18 12:15:38 2011.

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I don't understand how they can just decide to avoid competitive bidding if Federal funds are being used in part to subsidize this procurement.

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Mar 18 20:05:27 2011, in response to *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Mar 18 12:15:38 2011.

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I'm confused who are they going to be getting these buses from?

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by TonyG on Fri Mar 18 20:09:59 2011, in response to Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by Mac5689 on Fri Mar 18 20:05:27 2011.

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I'm not.

These buses will be Orion VII EPA 2010 CNG buses.

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Mar 18 20:14:07 2011, in response to Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by Mac5689 on Fri Mar 18 20:05:27 2011.

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This is a competitive bid on the 74 bus contract. All bus manufacturer that are qualified can bid this and have a chance to get it.

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by TonyG on Fri Mar 18 20:16:56 2011, in response to Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by Gold_12th on Fri Mar 18 20:14:07 2011.

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Right. But the verbiage that they want to make this a non-competitive bid leads me to believe that they want to give this order to Orion.

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Mar 18 20:50:53 2011, in response to Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by TonyG on Fri Mar 18 20:09:59 2011.

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I was thinking Orion.

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Mar 18 20:52:08 2011, in response to Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by Gold_12th on Fri Mar 18 20:14:07 2011.

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Oh, i missed the Competitive bid part.

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by daimlerbuses on Fri Mar 18 21:11:02 2011, in response to Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by TonyG on Fri Mar 18 20:16:56 2011.

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It still is competitive bidding, except in a RFP price is not the single overriding factor, there are other things that are considered such as delivery time, warranty, meeting specifications, etc.

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by TonyG on Fri Mar 18 21:42:05 2011, in response to Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by daimlerbuses on Fri Mar 18 21:11:02 2011.

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I guarantee that those factors would be tailored so that Orion was the clear winner.

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by New Flyer D40LF 4050 on Fri Mar 18 22:33:40 2011, in response to *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by gOlD_12tH on Fri Mar 18 12:15:38 2011.

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I thought MTA didn't use the 80/20 funding?

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Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!]

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Mon Mar 21 17:57:21 2011, in response to Re: *New changes* on upcoming order: 74 (40 ft) CNG buses for MTA Bus [+ option!], posted by New Flyer D40LF 4050 on Fri Mar 18 22:33:40 2011.

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This is the first time in a long while.

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