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Posted by QM18Express on Wed Sep 9 17:24:39 2009, in response to Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Sep 9 17:08:09 2009. After reading the article, I honestly think this could happen since New Haven is a big college town and affordable travel options for students tight on money is a great thing!However this can affect how Metro North ridership out of New Haven as well b/c there will be cases where Bolt will be cheaper then MNRR! Lets see how this plays out! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 9 17:39:35 2009, in response to Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Sep 9 17:08:09 2009. Are they clamoring specifically for BoltBus only and not Megabus (considering Megabus pulls out of Hartford next week)? I could see either one working if there is a stop not too far off the highway. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Sep 9 17:49:50 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 9 17:39:35 2009. From the message board threads I have been reading prior to the media blitz on the movement three days ago, they are specifically going for BoltBus because of the product itself being a "step-above" other services (i.e. the leather seats, wi-fi, plug-ins) - the big draw though is the fact that they allow you to transport bikes (if space is available) at no charge and they have tied it in to the whole "green" movement.Considering what Mega has donw in the last several weeks with the whole Hartford/Dattco divorce situation, I think they are focusing now on competing as an express service without the feeder... |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Sep 9 19:35:22 2009, in response to Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Sep 9 17:08:09 2009. The fastest way to get BoltBus...is to bring Megabus in there!Running I-95 all the way is going to make the schedule erratic. However, it could work. That is something I would do if they were serious. |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Sep 9 20:34:17 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Sep 9 17:49:50 2009. Theyre breaking up with Dattco too? If they are, good for Mega cuz Dattco's been fucking up the line lately |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Sep 9 20:54:20 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Sep 9 20:34:17 2009. Dattco might start dating BoltBus, though. Not exactly good news for Megabus. |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Sep 9 21:09:01 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by JAzumah on Wed Sep 9 20:54:20 2009. Hmm a Dattco/Bolt relationship makes a New Haven Bolt stop all the more feasible...As the plot thickens... |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 9 21:15:43 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by JAzumah on Wed Sep 9 19:35:22 2009. After the recent extension of the Baltimore runs to Greenbelt giving them a backup into DC, I'm wondering if it might be in Bolt's best interest to have a primary express run and a secondary Boston->Providence->New Haven->NYC run. Maybe even end those runs at Back Bay mainly to be a thorn in Megabus' side. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Sep 9 22:20:56 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 9 21:15:43 2009. A "local" like that would print money. |
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Posted by oldman on Wed Sep 9 23:40:35 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Sep 9 21:09:01 2009. why not a Dattco Express from New Haven to NYCone more bus company on the streets of NYC won't hurt Don't forget Dattco has a facility in Bridgeport which id next door |
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Posted by oldman on Wed Sep 9 23:43:19 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 9 21:15:43 2009. No room for Bolt at Back Bay |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 10 00:02:27 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Sep 9 20:34:17 2009. Next year; Megabus is probably going to have a base near Boston. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 10 00:03:29 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by JAzumah on Wed Sep 9 19:35:22 2009. New Haven is at the 95/91 junction. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Sep 10 00:20:39 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 10 00:03:29 2009. They aren't going to screw with their express runs. Megabus learned the hard way there. |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Thu Sep 10 00:29:39 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 10 00:02:27 2009. "Next year; Megabus is probably going to have a base near Boston."Hopefully sooner than later.... As for Dattco, good riddance. |
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Posted by oldman on Thu Sep 10 01:01:33 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 10 00:02:27 2009. we all know that they were looking at a place in Everett |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Sep 10 08:23:36 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Sep 9 21:15:43 2009. A Bolt local defeats the purpose - the name should be reserved for direct service with limited stops. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Sep 10 11:43:50 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by RailBus63 on Thu Sep 10 08:23:36 2009. The poodle is too low grade...unless they use the new blue coaches. Maybe they should just call the blue Prevosts the "Big Dog" fleet and maybe they will accept it. After all, those buses have the amenities that they are looking for. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Sep 10 12:28:52 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by oldman on Wed Sep 9 23:43:19 2009. No room? If Mega had room, Bolt could get room too. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Sep 10 12:31:01 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by RailBus63 on Thu Sep 10 08:23:36 2009. After the announcement about Greenbelt service, I'm starting to wonder about.(though from experience, the Greenbelt service is shorter schedule wise and is about equal with Metro for those along the Green and eastern Red lines) |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Sep 10 12:32:22 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by JAzumah on Thu Sep 10 00:20:39 2009. Unless it is an extension of an express run.Makes me wonder if the Greenbelt move was done as a way to make money on deadheads since they'd have to go down 95 and such anyway to get back to Tuxedo. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Sep 10 13:34:27 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by JAzumah on Thu Sep 10 11:43:50 2009. The poodle is too low grade...unless they use the new blue coaches.The new image and the Prevosts are an obvious attempt to re-cast the brand. It seems to be working here in the Northeast, but they also have the benefit of Bolt, Megabus and others helping to change the public's perception of bus travel. Outside of this region, Greyhound still has a lot of work to do to improve its image. |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Thu Sep 10 15:59:33 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Wed Sep 9 20:34:17 2009. ohh the irony...Im on my way to Boston and they sent out a Dattco bus for the 3:45 M22 and its not even a damn DD (no plugs but they have wifi) This is the third time in a row I dont get power outlets on this damn bus. Bolt just won a new customer... |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Sep 10 16:01:12 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by RailBus63 on Thu Sep 10 13:34:27 2009. Outside of this region, Greyhound still has a lot of work to do to improve its image.Outside of this region, they don't have enough competition to warrant improvements. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 10 16:18:05 2009, in response to Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Wed Sep 9 17:08:09 2009. No, take the Metro-North fools. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 17:33:07 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Sep 10 12:32:22 2009. That was a factor, but it was their intention from the beginning to serve a secondary market to DC - it's just that the legality of it all prevented it from occurring right away. Then again the U. Maryland and Towson students create a guaranteed market for Greenbelt, so the risk is minimal... |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 17:35:03 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 10 16:18:05 2009. There's enough room for the competition my friend...particularly from what has been written so far for Boston service... |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Sep 10 18:24:20 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 17:33:07 2009. Towson? Greenbelt? Towson's north of Baltimore I thought. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 18:41:51 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Sep 10 18:24:20 2009. You're right, my mistake on that...misunderstood their Twitter feed I guess... |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 18:44:48 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by JAzumah on Wed Sep 9 20:54:20 2009. That wouldn't make much sense for Dattco to become a contractor of Bolt - they tend to keep everything in house because of the support system and backbones they have with PPB and GLI aside from the fact that they have infrastructure in place.I don't believe Bolt would just pursue a NY-NH run...it would have to be interlined somehow... |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu Sep 10 20:35:19 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 10 16:18:05 2009. Thats boring.WiFi, power outlets, and some sweet jake brake sounds, now thats fun. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Sep 10 21:17:50 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 18:44:48 2009. It would be a bad idea to add stops on the Boston runs unless their counts are down on the expresses.You take Dattco as a contractor or you potentially fight Dattco. What if Dattco didn't sign a non-compete? They are not a small company and they want these guys working. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 23:37:12 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by JAzumah on Thu Sep 10 21:17:50 2009. From what I have heard their Boston skeds are pulling their weight very good - I happen to agree with you on it being a bad idea to add a stop on the Boston line, particularly in the case of where they would find additional capacity on Fridays and Sundays (most buses are sold out on a weekly basis).On the Dattco situation, yes there may be a problem with finding work for them but I've found Dattco to be resourceful when it comes to "seeking-out" contracts through their ties in CT. Since many of those drivers are Boston-based, I would expect them to compete more with PPB Boston with their contracts and charters than I would with line-runs. If they didn't sign a non-compete, which part of a Bolt operation into New Haven would be affected, any location within the state that parallels from the contract or just Hartford - I don't understand if its the case for the entire state... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 10 23:44:49 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 23:37:12 2009. I wonder if some of their runs could be tied in with #20 express runs between Hartford and New Haven, or CT Transit Route S local bus service from New Haven to Madison and Old Saybrook (i.e., a bus does an express run from NYC to New Haven, deadheads to the train station, and then does a local round trip on the S).CT Transit Route S is operated by DATTCO using MCIs (local fare is charged). |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Fri Sep 11 00:48:02 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Thu Sep 10 15:59:33 2009. mmmhmmm....thats one reason why I have not traveled with MegaBus yet. |
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Posted by oldman on Fri Sep 11 08:18:18 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Sep 10 12:28:52 2009. why would Bolt move, why |
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Posted by oldman on Fri Sep 11 08:20:03 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Sep 10 17:35:03 2009. no gates, no room, no street picking up |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Fri Sep 11 12:06:44 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Thu Sep 10 15:59:33 2009. The wifi went down enroute so I couldnt post this earlier:They ended up switching us to one of their red DD's at some park-and-ride off I84 in CT (78901 has no wifi or power unlike 78903 which has outlets and wifi) is DATTCO running short on blue doubledeckers? i havent been one one in over a month, and I travel NY-BOS almost every other week.. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Fri Sep 11 13:15:03 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Fri Sep 11 12:06:44 2009. It's not that they are short on the DD's, it's more of the fact that the schedule increased for the Fall to better compete with Bolt and as a result Dattco did not receive any more DD's to cover the skeds - Coach USA only gave them enough to run the summer schedule w/o spares...It could also be the case of Mega beginning to repo' the DD's and bring them back into the regular NE fold, as Dattco's relationship with Mega is slowly, but surely coming to an end. |
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Posted by oldman on Fri Sep 11 23:18:21 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Fri Sep 11 13:15:03 2009. Dattco's allotment from Megabus Northeast is DD420-428 |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Sat Sep 12 00:48:30 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by oldman on Fri Sep 11 23:18:21 2009. If thats the case then the "repo" has already started. I saw DD420 boarding for DC while waiting for my bus on Thursday..IIRC isnt the last day for Dattco |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Sep 12 10:08:52 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Fri Sep 11 13:15:03 2009. Through all of this, I wonder who owns Dattco's DD's. I remember seeing one, with Megabus specs but Dattco paint, on a charter in DC on the 4th of July. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Sep 12 11:41:37 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Sep 12 10:08:52 2009. Dattco actually owns a few of their own TD 925's in their scheme that are used primarily on the Mohegan Sun runs during the week and Megabus runs on the weekends - they make it out on charters when the need warrants... |
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Posted by oldman on Sat Sep 12 22:44:56 2009, in response to Re: Interesting movement for BoltBus service to New Haven..., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Sep 12 11:41:37 2009. have 3 going on 5 |
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