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Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 24 23:49:02 2009

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Here is the last segment:


TTC Orion V #9417 (ex-Orion V CNG #9417)


TTC Orion VII HEV #1146 (with new Lithium battery pack)


TTC Orion V #6705 (one of only FOUR 6v92/B400R Orion Vs still in active service)


TTC GM New Look #2017 (Toronto's oldest Fishbowl in service)


TTC GM New Look #2349


Mississauga Transit New Flyer D60LFR #0877


YRT New Flyer D40HF #8918


YRT Orion I #525


YRT MCI Classic #2048


YRT/VIVA VanHool AG300 #8208


Brampton Transit NovaBUS LFS #0613


GO Transit MCI D4500 #2123 (repainted)


Niagara Parks Commission Orion IV Peoplemover


Niagara Falls Transit Orion VII #2471

And one more...


Greyhound Lines Inc. Prevost X3-45 #86019

I hope you enjoyed this presentation as much as I did giving it!


--Dr. C

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 00:09:13 2009, in response to Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 24 23:49:02 2009.

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Nice...but an O7 (first generation) with the lithium-ion battery pack?

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Thu Jun 25 00:24:52 2009, in response to Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 00:09:13 2009.

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Yeah, Toronto had MAJOR problems with the buses with the old battery pack so they retrofitted Litium-Ion battery packs on all Orion Hybrids (OG and NG) that had the original lead-acid batteries.

They're hoping that this will solve the problems they had with the buses stalling and the batteries dying...

...aka the TTC almost learned the hard way that series-hybrid buses aren't for them (a lot of the routes travel on long stretches without braking which means no regenerative braking/charging which means dead batteries...).

I doubt a new battery pack will solve ALL their problems, but at least the have the option to change all new orders into Diesel Orion VII NGs just in case. They will already be receiving Diesel Orion VII NGs as soon as the current Hybrid order is done. Only time will tell if the Lithium-Ion battery packs will keep Toronto's Hybrids on the streets...

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 25 00:26:20 2009, in response to Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 00:09:13 2009.

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Yep, TTC is retrofitting their first generation Orion VIIs with the new battery packs, doing the buses with lead acid batteries that failed within months after they got them FIRST, then doing the rest over time. Orion outsourced that operation due to the lack of space in their facilities (what, with brand new NextGens for TTC and NYCT flying off the production lines and all), and so far about 20 buses in the 1000s and 1100s, mainly the 1100s, have been refitted...

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 25 00:30:35 2009, in response to Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Thu Jun 25 00:24:52 2009.

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Yea, it doesn't help that you see hybrids on the Rockets or the Steeles and Finch Expresses...

And as

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 00:32:56 2009, in response to Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 25 00:26:20 2009.

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Theirs at least looks professional; have you see the job done on the four NYCT OGs with lithium-ion batteries?

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Thu Jun 25 00:34:36 2009, in response to Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 00:32:56 2009.

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Yeah, they look as if they hit a low bridge. They have the brackets that held the old battery pack in place still attached, so it looks like tangled metal with a new battery pack resting in the middle.

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 25 07:13:49 2009, in response to Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 24 23:49:02 2009.

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Nice photos in all three threads!

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by Deaks on Thu Jun 25 09:01:26 2009, in response to Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 24 23:49:02 2009.

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They are all very good. Did you see any of the GO Transit Dennis double-deckers at all?

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by b44nyc on Thu Jun 25 14:16:13 2009, in response to Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 24 23:49:02 2009.

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Nice pics, especially the fishbowls! Did you spot any fishbowls in Niagara?

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 25 18:00:58 2009, in response to Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by b44nyc on Thu Jun 25 14:16:13 2009.

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No, as I recollect, they may or may not have them anymore, but I did spot their Classics...

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 25 18:02:37 2009, in response to Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by Deaks on Thu Jun 25 09:01:26 2009.

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I didn't go to that part of the GO Transit service area, regretably, but I will next time...and the thing is, that's the area I really wanted to go to, but we didn't have enough time for that...and my party had other intentions, such as the 6v92 Orion Vs and the Fishbowls running for the TTC.

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Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III...

Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 25 18:06:16 2009, in response to Re: Photos from my Canada trip Part III..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 00:32:56 2009.

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Oh, yea, in fact, I was one of the first people to spot and shoot and then post photos of them...

Interesting fact: the TTC had a few OG Orion VIIs with that semi-professional job like our Li-ion O7s...but they have since been refitted with what you see in that photo of 1146.

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