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Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by alex_leungkm on Sun Feb 1 21:12:20 2009 edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d here are some photos taken after school on 1/19 LACMTA D40LF NABI 40C-LFW NABI 40C-LFW and 40-LFW NABI 40-LFW NABI 42BRT Thanks for watching. Comments welcome
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by PHXTUSbusfan* on Sun Feb 1 21:26:39 2009, in response to Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by alex_leungkm on Sun Feb 1 21:12:20 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Great pics. I think that the 42BRT is a sharp looking bus.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by lbt 9415* on Sun Feb 1 23:37:48 2009, in response to Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by alex_leungkm on Sun Feb 1 21:12:20 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d great pictures. I like those 40ft Compobuses. Looks like # 7995 is back at Division 10. Division 6 is a diesel only yard in the LACMTA Fleet. MTA shouldve swapped buses with Division 91 ( First Transit-Compton ). Send all 60 Orion VIs from Division 91 to Division 6 Send all the TMCs/ D40LFs from Division 6 to Division 91 The Orion VIs were purchased by LACMTA, so why not.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by octa1busfan* on Mon Feb 2 00:16:33 2009, in response to Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by alex_leungkm on Sun Feb 1 21:12:20 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d nice catches, i believe there are only 6 42brts
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by Easy* on Mon Feb 2 00:24:00 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 1 21:26:39 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The wheel covers are a nice touch.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by Bee Flexible #823* on Mon Feb 2 11:04:15 2009, in response to Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by alex_leungkm on Sun Feb 1 21:12:20 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I'm loving this 1 with it's a$$ sticking out: A very colorful fleet. I need to get myself out to the Left Coast. Nice pics!
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by roscoman1986* on Mon Feb 2 18:33:56 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by lbt 9415 on Sun Feb 1 23:37:48 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d On a side note, I don't know if you like them, but I cannot stand riding on LACMTA's Orion VIs. They are like dungeons compared to the other LACMTA (non-contractor) buses, especially with those deep blue lights and heavily tinted windows, and for some reason they did not spec them like the other buses, down to the fact that they are diesel-powered. I believe we may have discussed this but I wonder if they are piggybacked off some other order, hence the reason for the "non-standard" specs? I haven't ridden on any of the D40LFs but at least the TMCs are bright inside even if they are a bit dirty in the rear area (i.e. sitting on graffiti-covered seats).
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by lbt 9415* on Mon Feb 2 19:38:53 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by roscoman1986 on Mon Feb 2 18:33:56 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I dont care for the Orion VIs at all. I have no clue for the interior blue light specials. Im sure if they went back to MTA, they would be switched from blue to white. The reason for the aisle facing seats curbside is because the fuel tank housing is underneath them. As for the MTA buying these oddball buses...its my assumption that the Orions were prolly the lowest bidder. Shame MTA did buy diesel NABIs or NFIs to replace the First Transit buses.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by lbt 9415* on Mon Feb 2 19:43:32 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Feb 2 19:38:53 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Also Id like to add that before First Transit took on the Orion VIs, they had the worst-Looking hand-me-downs from other agencies. The oldest buses they had were the ex LACMTA/SCRTD 1981 GMC RTS T8J204s. They also had some ex-Long Beach Transit RTS 04s as well...which were all painted white. Sadly enough, the headsigns were never re-programmed, and they had paper route signs. Years later, MTA sent some of the older 1983/84 Neoplan AN440s, 1988/89 Flxible Metros and TMCs down to First Transit.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by Bingham C50* on Mon Feb 2 23:58:51 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by lbt 9415 on Sun Feb 1 23:37:48 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's sometimes easy to forget that LA's first CompoBuses were 40' and built on NABI's original low-floor design.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Tue Feb 3 10:11:16 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Feb 2 19:43:32 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I remember those early days well (in 1996), as my home line (125 - Rosecrans Ave) was one of the ones contracted to ~~Worst~~ First Transit. Back then they were known as ATE (Ain't Travelin' Efficiently) :) Management and Service. The initial fleet did consist of the 1981 RTS, but there were some 1984 Neoplans at that time also. Mostly high 3400s from Division 8 (West Valley), which could spare them as they had gotten in CNG Neoplans. The only exception to this was 3402 (from Division 15) and 3581. ATE ended up burning up 3581 and 3480. ATE's maintenance, or what passed for it was horrible, almost immediately the A/C stopped working (and the 1981 RTS didn't have openable windows!), among other problems. Later in the year, MTA actually loaned ATE a few of their 1989 TMC RTS-06s (and at least one 1988 (2040)). The ex-LBT 1984 RTS arrived in 1997 (4452-4476). They were great when they first arrived (everything worked, except for the signs which were not reprogrammed for MTA destinations as Eddie mentioned), but before too long, they had fallen into the same sad state. This was the state of ATE when I left Southern California in mid-1998, later that year or early 1999, MTA did send the 1988/1989 Flxibles and TMCs, which covered service until the Orions arrived in 2001. The initial ATE era was a bad time, schedule adherence was terrible, so I began seeking alternate wasy to work. Since I lived near Rosecrans and Western, I had alternatives, such as Gardena Municipal Bus Lines. One route I took was the Gardena 2 south on Western to Artesia, where I would get the recently rerouted 444 (which used Artesia Blvd from the South Bay Galleria to Vermont Ave, then down Vermont to the Artesia Transit Center, then onto the Harbor Transitway). Or a westbound 125 (a run that was reasonably reliable) to Rosecrans/Crenshaw, then the 210 (or the 310) to Crenshaw Green Line station, then the Green Line eastbound to either Harbor Fwy station, where I'd get one of the Harbor Fwy lines to USC, or if I had time, continue to Imperial/Wilmington to the Blue Line to Grand and then DASH F to USC. Hopefully, First Transit has improved over those early ATE days, but somehow I doubt it.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by alex_leungkm* on Wed Feb 4 01:20:26 2009, in response to Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by alex_leungkm on Sun Feb 1 21:12:20 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d here are some taken it today with the latest compo bus for LACMTA Metro Local. NABI Metro-45C. I saw that there are 3 45Cs in the div#6 yard. Two of them are out, and the other one is still inside.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by Bingham C50* on Wed Feb 4 01:31:07 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by alex_leungkm on Wed Feb 4 01:20:26 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Very nice. Nice to see a great bus get a new lease on life.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by lbt 9415* on Wed Feb 4 03:07:05 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by alex_leungkm on Wed Feb 4 01:20:26 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d finally Division 6 has 45ft CNG CompoBus. I knew 8105 was there ... but now u have the photographic evidence that 8103 is the 2nd bus...nice shootin. FYI - Since Division 6 doesnt have CNG Fueling capability, the 8100s refuel at Division 7 ( West Hollywood ) before pulling-in to Division 6.
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Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6
Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Wed Feb 4 09:44:37 2009, in response to Re: Some pics taken outside of LACMTA div#6, posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Feb 4 03:07:05 2009.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d FYI - Since Division 6 doesnt have CNG Fueling capability, the 8100s refuel at Division 7 ( West Hollywood ) before pulling-in to Division 6. I guess MTA changed plans, I had heard that the 8100s would use a CNG fueling facility somewhere in Santa Monica. Perhaps said facility isn't ready yet, and D7 is a stopgap measure. Of course the presence of the 8100s means that the end is near for MTA's remaining TMC RTS {sniffle} (Actually, I never cared that much for the 1200s, due in part to their ~~Crapanol~~ Methanol problems before they were converted back to diesel in the late 90s. I got to ride them often when they were new on the 446, as the now-closed Div. 12 had some of them. My favorite all-time RTD/MTA TMCs (in fact my favorite RTS in general) were the 1989 models (2300-2402). I think all of them are now retired as well.)
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