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Re: Queens Public Transit Committee Rally

Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 11:08:40 2016, in response to Re: Queens Public Transit Committee Rally, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri May 27 10:43:15 2016.

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"That is not an adequate response. We need to know what routes will be taken and how much additional time those detours will take."
No we don't. Besides, such is unknowable.

"DOT proposed these turn restrictions before studying their effects. Take Metropolitan for example. First they said one of the alternates was for trucks to bake a 270 degree left turn. When I showed them that turn could only be made with great difficulty and woukd delay traffic, they abandoned that plan and instead proposed Trotting Coyrse Lane be made a two-way. When they were shown that was not feasible, they put back the left turn restriction at Furmanville and proposed a one mile detour. When that was also shown to be a poor alternative, they finally decided to collect sone data and concluded the left turns need to stay."
Your causes here are made up. DOT should be ashamed about allowing political expediency get in the way of sound transit planning. And nobody would have had to make a one mile detour as has been shown time and time again.

"So don't blame the "nutjobs" in the community. Blame the incompetents at DOT. They are not folding because of any pressure. They are folding because they finally realize their proposals to ban left turns woukd not have worked."
No. They are folding because of idiots and nuts such as yourself.

"I claim they have not collected data because I was quoting the DOT "engineer" who told me they have not yet collected data."
You obviously misunderstand them.

"Now you have completely discredited yourself if you believe that government has the right to do whatever it wants without any community input, which is what you just stated."
The whole purpose of representative government is to restrict the direct input of citizens.

"No it is not obvious that sone people's travel times will be reduced when bus travel times also increase. And for every 5 people who save five minutes, it doesn't matter if 1,000 people will lose five minutes."
See RIPTA42's post. and yes, it is obvious that travel times for some will be reduced.

"SBS was supposed to reverse the trend of declining bus ridership. THAT WAS ONE OF ITS GOALS. Now you are saying it doesn't matter if that didn't happen."
Really? Cite it.

"By that definition, anyone who does not agree with that conclusion is either insane or a nutjob. Sounds like someone who has his mind made up and is unwilling to change it based on the facts."
I'd say either ignorant or insane. You are both.


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