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Re: How the MTA is Destroying the Local Bus System

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 21 18:00:31 2011, in response to Re: How the MTA is Destroying the Local Bus System, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Nov 21 17:31:00 2011.

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If you disagree with my hypothesis that they distort their data, why aren't you answering my question as to why a peak/ non-peak breakdown was done for LIRR and not for Buses?

I definitely do understand the intracacies and tremendous effort that is involved in running the system on a daily basis and the MTA deserves much credit for running the bus system exceedingly well 50% of the time. I just think that is not good enough. And I base that 50% on my own experiences riding buses. Half the time everything runs perfectly or near perfectly. The other half the time it fails miserably. Your view all depends on your expectations.

I'm not sure what facts and names you want me to provide, but the one time I used the phrase "my sources" was because I am sure that source would not appreciate losing his job over what he told me. If you don't want to believe me, that's fine but until you can come up with the facts to disprove anything I've said you don't have a case.

The MTA has not proven that existing SBS routes have been successful. They have stated that SBS ridership has increased 10 or 20% over Limited. That does not prove success if you can't also tell me where those riders have come from or performed a survey to ascertain if they were new trips not made before. They even admitted that sone of that increase was riders diverted from locals. That would not constitute improvement if the switch was due to downgrading local service. Where is the number showing the number of reduced automobile trips due to SBS. That would be considered success. Didn't see it in any of the MTA's reports.

I am not saying SBS has not been a success, only that reduced bus travel time and increased riding on SBS routes are insufficient measures to determine success. Success is determined by reduction in trip times someone makes door to door including walking and fewer auto trips as a result of SBS as well as reduced operating expenses. The MTA has only proven the last one and nothing more. Until the MTA can show that the increased ridership has not come from parallel bus and subway routes, they cannot claim success. They are making the claim, so the onus is on them to prove it.

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